illegal immigration, good or bad?

[heedicalking]

do illegal immigrants drain the economy? do they have little impact? do they "pay for themselves"? talk about the topic.

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[Eussorus]

Who the forget will clean my yard, so it's good.

[Lugnut]

I think they should make legal immigration easier.

[heedicalking]

Who the forget will clean my yard, so it's good.

americans would.

[Skorpion]

Helpful in one way, harmful in another.
Mexicans take cheap jobs so business saves money.

But US citizens are out of the job.

[Kalphiter]

americans would.

Where are they?

Woops

[otto-san]

I don't really see how it could be good.

They come here and have a child and get benefits that are supposed to be for citizens. The government is paying for people that haven't gone through the processes to earn those benefits. They don't take jobs that anyone else will take, I don't see why job taking is an issue unless it's a job someone else would actually take.

[zackin5]

I think they should make legal immigration easier.

This

Currently the only way to immigrate within your life time is if you've got family already in America and you have a few cheat cards. And even then you've still got to wait about 5-10 years before they'll accept you.

[otto-san]

I think they should make legal immigration easier.

The issue is, they have to be sure they aren't letting dangerous people in.
It needs to be easier to get in if you aren't dangerous, but it's hard to discern if you're dangerous or not.

[Kalphiter]

They come here and have a child and get benefits that are supposed to be for citizens. The government is paying for people that haven't gone through the processes to earn those benefits. They don't take jobs that anyone else will take, I don't see why job taking is an issue unless it's a job someone else would actually take.

Do tell me, is an illegal immigrant easily able to receive social security money? Is he able to avoid paying the payroll tax (assuming the employer is doing its job)? Doesn't that mean he is paying into a system he will receive nothing out of?

The arguments that immigrants are a money burden are poorly thought-out.

Complain about how immigrants can just get in legally? Yell at the quota and long wait times.

[otto-san]

Do tell me, is an illegal immigrant easily able to receive social security money? Is he able to avoid paying the payroll tax?
Doesn't that mean he is paying into a system he will receive nothing out of?

The arguments that immigrants are a money burden are poorly thought-out.

I was referring more to the whole anchor child thing.
The child will eventually get those benefits.

[Port]

I think they should make legal immigration easier.

[Otis Da HousKat]

I was referring more to the whole anchor child thing.
The child will eventually get those benefits.

And the child would be a legal US citizen so what are you getting at?

[Eussorus]

I think they should make legal immigration easier.

[otto-san]

And the child would be a legal US citizen so what are you getting at?

Some people may come and have children with the intent of having access to that through the child.

Seems like to much work to me though, it'd be much easier and logical to just become a citizen.