Space travel via black holes

[Böltster]

Rhetorical, Boltster. Making a point.

A point that the technology could be potentially abused? I addressed that point, Icygamma, Yes, it can, but no more than anything else anyone else has ever developed.

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[Nickelob Ultra]

I can understand the logic of the idea but unfortunately black holes just suck up everything and superheat them to beyond extraordinary levels.

I can imagine astrologists playing Spore and going through wormholes in-game just quitting the game because of it.

[Demian]

No, it isn't. Well, it's at least highly improbable. There is no way we could harness enough energy to do what they're saying in the first place, then once we did we'd just have a black hole that we don't know what to do with.

I don't know. An enormous solar panel right next to the sun sounds like a whole lot of energy to me.

>pictures of black holes
>the idea behind black holes is that they are black and so is space
>can't see black holes
>wat

But we can see light being bent around the hole. So practically we can see the hole.

And stuff, that technology could be potentially abused, couldn't it?

I'm sure most terrorists have access to high powered laser tubelabs and huge solar panels. Or they could just hijack all the power plants on Earth for a few years. I'm sure nobody will notice.

[Sheath]

I'm sure most terrorists have access to high powered laser tubelabs and huge solar panels. Or they could just hijack all the power plants on Earth for a few years. I'm sure nobody will notice.

Not quite what I was getting at, but I'm not sure why you are trying to apply logic to a hypothetical world with speculative technology lol.

[Port]

god damn it guys
use the energy achieved from letting particles of positive and negative matter (anti-matter) absorb each other

[Demian]

god damn it guys
use the energy achieved from letting particles of positive and negative matter (anti-matter) absorb each other

Anti-matter has containment issues as well.

[Port]

Anti-matter has containment issues as well.

I didn't say you should keep it around for extended periods of time.

[Feep]

Today I was browsing the internet and looking at pictures of black holes, very unnerving things they are, and came across this article. For those who don't want to read it, it talked about how new research revealed that a controlled black hole engine inside of a starship could be used as a power source, and for making the ship move. In theory, it could finally bring us into the outer reaches of space.

I'm hoping this is really going to happen

/discuss

you haven't seen Event Horizon, right?

[Treynolds416]

I saw a show on this

I'm pretty sure the design involved making a spaceship that weighed a million tons or so, to avoid being affected by the black hole

[Brickmaster]

That guy "The docter" was right! :O

[The Titanium]

Rhetorical, Boltster. Making a point.

But wasn't Boltster making a point?

Or am I missing the point you are making?

You are the loving people who stop the future from happening

ALL OF THIS IS POSSIBLE

I wasn't exactly paying the greatest amount of attention ever, but from what I saw it didn't really seem anyone was being as dismissive of the idea as you seem to say, their "cutting pessimism" (totally not a calm brown townysis of what our current model of physics tells us we can do) literally being the barrier to space travel. In fact, at most it seemed what matters were brought up about the challenges in space travel were comical ones.

BUAT NO, fuuwUK AL U PEEPOL, WIT YOUR NUMBERS AND stuff, UR SLOWIN US DOWN FUK U IM GONA BRIN US TO SPAIC WITH MY COMPLETE AND UTTER LACK OF ANY SORT OF COHERENT PLAN AT ALL!

- Tita's Strawman

[Supersylox]

Probably a bump, but I was gone.Well, as I said earlier it takes an extreme amount of mass to create one of these things. The issue is, even with the weight of the sun pushing down on the core it doesn't achieve black hole levels. You would need an incredible amount of pressure to create this in the first place, otherwise you would end up spawning supernovae. Really, the only way to create a small black hole is if a larger one loses its mass (due to hawking radiation) and ends up as a smaller one. One can't just spawn a small black hole.

However, Quantum Physics has a nice solution to our space travel problems. It's a cool thing called teleportation. Yeah, we have it working on earth. Small objects (as in smaller than an atom, sorry) have been teleported across seas before. Using quantum entanglement you can invert yourself at a new location, then be reinverted at that location to yield an exact copy of yourself at the new location.

Woah, that's really neat

I actually didn't know that before this.

No, that's what handicaps said about a man being on the moon. That's what handicaps said about airplanes or flight itself, that's what handicaps said about cell phones, cavemen didn't have advanced enough language to propegate such a point.

The reason all these achievements have happened is because they're possible by utilizing our understanding of physics. Prior to putting a man on the moon, things had been projected into space. It was known that a man could be placed in space, and it's just a step of logic further to put a man on the moon.

Throw a thin piece of paper. Throw a model airplane. Look at a bird. Things fly. It happens. If you scale up the wings obviously it's going to be able to lift a human.

Radio waves have been used for a while before cellphones existed. Radios were pretty much stuff cellphones. I'm pretty sure most people didn't doubt that cellphones could exist.

On the other hand, our current understanding of astrophysics doesn't allow this to happen. Black holes simply can not be created at the size they are asking for. And even if they were, they wouldn't be able to be contained. That's just what a black hole is. It's not even debatable, you can't house a black hole because it will have a greater gravitational pull than the earth on whatever your housing is, and they don't defy gravity. It will be sucked down into the earth. There's a very scientific reason why this won't happen. The others have no scientific reasons why they wouldn't work.

Get it right.

Exactly.

We, the human race, just need to put our heads together. We can find a way. We always have and we will continue to do so until the end of mankind.

[The Titanium]

Doesn't quantum teleportation theoretically destroy you and create a copy of you at the destination?

[Tetris]

No, that's what handicaps said about a man being on the moon. That's what handicaps said about airplanes or flight itself, that's what handicaps said about cell phones, cavemen didn't have advanced enough language to propegate such a point.

The reason all these achievements have happened is because they're possible by utilizing our understanding of physics. Prior to putting a man on the moon, things had been projected into space. It was known that a man could be placed in space, and it's just a step of logic further to put a man on the moon.

Throw a thin piece of paper. Throw a model airplane. Look at a bird. Things fly. It happens. If you scale up the wings obviously it's going to be able to lift a human.

Radio waves have been used for a while before cellphones existed. Radios were pretty much stuff cellphones. I'm pretty sure most people didn't doubt that cellphones could exist.

On the other hand, our current understanding of astrophysics doesn't allow this to happen. Black holes simply can not be created at the size they are asking for. And even if they were, they wouldn't be able to be contained. That's just what a black hole is. It's not even debatable, you can't house a black hole because it will have a greater gravitational pull than the earth on whatever your housing is, and they don't defy gravity. It will be sucked down into the earth. There's a very scientific reason why this won't happen. The others have no scientific reasons why they wouldn't work.

Get it right.

Did you need to add the "Get it right" part

Now we aren't happy with eachother

[blaman]

Doesn't quantum teleportation theoretically destroy you and create a copy of you at the destination?

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