Cat Found Buried Alive in Concrete Up to its Head. (oh my god i'm crying)

[Tomcat]

The size of their brains make them incapable of being sentient or self aware. It does not know it is alive. The cat brain has a massive cerrebelum that manages its instincts and motor control. The key word here is instincts, which are responses to the environment biologically programmed into the cat's brain.

Humans do not have instincts, we contemplate our actions before we make them, even if it doesn't seem like it sometimes. We don't suddenly downshift into a reptilian state just because of surprise.

I'm not for sale you idiot.

Cats are sentient, dolt.
Also, there's a video of a cat somewhere staying near a dead cat too, they do feel pain and emotions.

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[Qwepir]

don't argue with me best qwepir :c
and think about this; we have thousands of different languages. you can't comprehend the words of a language you don't know. do math pls

I can learn a language. Cats cannot learn to speak a language and their way of understanding our is different than the way we do.

[SeventhSandwich]

don't argue with me best qwepir :c
and think about this; we have thousands of different languages. you can't comprehend the words of a language you don't know. do math pls

That argument doesn't make any sense. People speaking a different language still share the same experiences we do like growing up, getting married, having children, getting a job, etc.

Cats are sentient, dolt.
Also, there's a video of a cat somewhere staying near a dead cat too, they do feel pain and emotions.

That's not emotion or sentience. That's biological altruism, a well documented example of natural selection in biology, which is still controlled by instincts, not conscience.

[Planr]

it's pretty sad that seventh is finding his daily dose of pleasure by arguing about cats.

[brickybob]

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/wbmx7/flds_church_sends_kitten_buried_alive_in_concrete/

Follow up on r/atheism. I am so disgusted.

Good to know this got some media atte-
>/r/atheism
LOL RON PAUL SO BRAVE

God damn I hate /r/atheism.

[mod-man]

call me a heartless bitch and all, but if an animal is on the edge with a little to no chance of surviving its injuries, wouldn't it make more sense just to kill it? i mean the officer has a point, you cant do much more for it. its been stuck in a 14ft drop tube and covered from its head down in dried cement. now i'm not saying you should just put dirt over it and suffocate it, that's not a very humane way of going about that, i mean just shoot it. it'd be quick and painless and you'd actually be doing the animal a favor :p

[Tomcat]

That argument doesn't make any sense. People speaking a different language still share the same experiences we do like growing up, getting married, having children, getting a job, etc.
That's not emotion or sentience. That's biological altruism, a well documented example of natural selection in biology, which is still controlled by instincts, not conscience.

Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive or be conscious, or to have subjective experiences. Eighteenth century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think ("reason") from the ability to feel ("sentience"). In modern western philosophy, sentience is the ability to have sensations or experiences (described by some thinkers as "qualia").

[Qwepir]

Good to know this got some media atte-
>/r/atheism
LOL RON PAUL SO BRAVE

God damn I hate /r/atheism.

Why does /r/atheism even exist? From what I've seen of it from my friends showing me around, it just seems like a place for atheists to circlejerk about how dum relijun is.

it's pretty sad that seventh is finding his daily dose of pleasure by arguing about cats.

It's even sadder that the cat had to be buried in cement instead of you.

[SeventhSandwich]

it's pretty sad that seventh is finding his daily dose of pleasure by arguing about cats.

Hey you're here too. The only reason you're saying the argument is useless now is because you know nothing about the biology of animals and humans and you can't defend your poor judgement.

An instinct is not an experience. It's literally an unconscious response. The key word (which I'm starting to say a lot now) is conscious, and according to your definition, sentience is to be conscious. Therefore cats are not sentient.

[Planr]

-blablabla-

honestly i think you're thinking about this a little too hard. it's a cat, and you're spitting out paragraph essays as if it's a college paper or something about some science nonsense which is only remotely related to the topic. might want to lighten up there a bit buddy.

[Lil Robot]

Hey you're here too. The only reason you're saying the argument is useless now is because you know nothing about the biology of animals and humans and you can't defend your poor judgement.
An instinct is not an experience. It's literally an unconscious response. The key word (which I'm starting to say a lot now) is conscious, and according to your definition, sentience is to be conscious. Therefore cats are not sentient.

sandwich
i have one question to ask you
why are you always an starfish about several subjects? is it like, your job?

[Frontrox]

sandwich
i have one question to ask you
why are you always an starfish about several subjects? is it like, your job?

Yes it is, he's also the forum detective.

[SeventhSandwich]

honestly i think you're thinking about this a little too hard. it's a cat, and you're spitting out paragraph essays as if it's a college paper or something about some science nonsense which is only remotely related to the topic. might want to lighten up there a bit buddy.

Yeah because taking a stance on an issue on the basis of ignorance is always the best policy.

You strike me as one of those fundamentalists who argue about natural selection yet cannot define it when asked to. Please do not ever vote.

sandwich
i have one question to ask you
why are you always an starfish about several subjects? is it like, your job?

I'm not an starfish. Everything I have said so far is true. You are simply unable to compare it to your current ideology because you are unable to think critically. Because you and Planr think it's a better idea to just stick with what you already think is right instead of actually read what someone else is proposing and see if it's better, I'm no longer going to argue with you people.

Have fun being ignorant forever.

[Katadeus]

If we're talking about the definition of sentience, Sandwich is completely and absolutely correct. Sentience has nothing to do with emotions. I would say that the key word would be subjective, since it's about evaluation of the situation.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

itt: everyone loses