Author Topic: I have a NON-CANCEROUS tumor in the brain area of my body :D  (Read 25676 times)

here's another question: these ideas about alt. medicine have not been proven scientifically... but who's doing the treatments? are they not doctors that are being paid by the pharmecutical industry to sell the industry's drugs?

why would they push a treatment option that they don't get paid for?
No because the pharmaceutical industry handles pharmaceuticals, not herbs and spices. None of that stuff is regulated by the FDA and therefore isn't a pharmaceutical. If you actually believe in that stuff, you are ridiculously gullible.

Gamefandan, even though I only saw you on your Monster RPG server, I do really care about you.  I don't want this game to lose a good player.

Here's to hoping it is benign, and that you will have no trouble, other than smelling fake smoke.



Reading through all these homeopathic arguments:

Seriously people?  Don't hate on some idea that was posted.  All that people are doing are trying to help.  No one on here knows if they work or not, so just give it up.  Artificial treatment is fantastic, but who knows?  Maybe there are other more natural remedies that can provide similar effects.  There probably are.  Medical advances and discoveries are happening all the time, so one of the new natural remedies may work better.  The standard medicinal procedures should be taken full use of though, but perhaps having an extra Orange every day too might help.  It certainly can't do any harm.

And if Game doesn't want to do it, great.  It really doesn't matter.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativist_fallacy

Read those and then you can understand why your own anecdotal evidence/experience is completely useless without more people being tested.

He's not an idiot like the docter who would fake death for attention, Gamefandan is cool and wouldn't lie to us.
deth by cancre

In the meanwhile sick people should stick to the drugs that brilliant scientists and chemists have researched and developed for decades.

And then overprice by 1000%

Its 2012, guys. Where is my cure to cancer.

it's been in your cancer all along!

Player is going to die: 22 pages and counting of sob

Player already died: 16 pages of "He was cool."

And then overprice by 1000%

Yeah but national health care is bad, right?

Player is going to die: 22 pages and counting of sob

Player already died: 16 pages of "He was cool."
Its not even confirmed that hes going to die, he was overly vague about it presumably for attention.

Not that I dont feel bad for the guy but really two topics of people sobbing is not necessary even if he had already dropped dead.
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Oh man, I wish you'd have spaced that out better is the first thing I can say. This is a mess to reply to.
i'll be honest that I don't know what is. The articles I mentioned, (now shown to be stuffty articles, but still, let's use the benefit of the doubt here, i mean, humankind has been wrong before, right?), suggested that when one has cancer, one has a deficiency of vitamin C. why would you piss out the vitamin c if you're using it?
Well, to start out I'll sum up how your digestive system works really fast. You eat or drink, the fluid enters your stomach. Your stomach begins to break down the food into smaller more manageable pieces. By this I mean big molecules. Of these, there's fructose, glucose, sucrose, etc. These are sugars, carbs are sugars with a carboxyl group attatched iirc. One more step of digestion to snap that off. Anyway, now that you've broken it down, it moves the resulting sludge into your intestines. Liquid gets absorbed through your intestines into your blood stream, solid goes through. The liquid, carrying sugars and other nutrients, then goes through your blood stream and feeds your cells. Whatever is not used by the time your pancreas sorts it out of your blood is then put into your bladder. (This explanation is much longer than I'd wanted it to be, but oh well.) Essentially, regardless of how fresh this vitamin C is, your body will continuously remove it from your blood stream which is why you need to consume it every day. If you flood your system with it, your pancreas will simply let more of it through into your bladder. Hence, you just pee out the extra.
I have tried real medicine. My personal experience is that it wasn't as effective. It cured my aforementioned ear infections pain, but did not fix the fact that i was deaf in one ear. it also took a month to do so in comparison with 3 days.
I'm not denying that herbal medicine can be effective. Though I have literally not a clue how it helped you, since I don't know what the medicine is called nor how it has antibiotic properties, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you aren't just bullstuffting us as some sort of "evidence." My counter is simply that real medicine is designed to help you. Herbs were not.
Explain to me why medicine that existed when man came into existence is worse than medicine that is man made? Surely nature knows better than man about what we're supposed to be ingesting? Perhaps they are equally effective?
This is my FAVORITE point for people to point out. Simply because it is so, very wrong. Use basic logic here, you're a programmer (or scripter at least) so that should come fairly easily. Unless you believe in some kind of god that designed the plants, and not evolution, my point makes perfect sense. Plants evolved via the same process we did. Weak die. Strong live. That's why many berries are poisonous, and why roses have thorns. It's hard to eat something that kills you, or that makes your mouth bleed and makes it hard to eat for a long time. So, left to their own processes, plants begin to develop these defense mechanisms to, well, defend themselves from things wanting to eat them. So you're taking this highly, highly specialized killing machine and consuming it. That sounds smart.

On the flip side, western medicine is based around the exact opposite. You take potentially harmful substances and make them safe to use. It's pretty much inverted evolution, creating things that are helpful to consume. Have you ever heard of a berry that makes you stronger and faster? Steroids and creatine do. Not saying that it's a smart thing to take steroids, but they support my point. This is essentially the expanded version of my prior comment about do you trust science or nature.
okthat portion of that post was an irrational and childish attempt at... er, i'm not sure what i was trying to acheive. i think i was trying to scare you off or something, which obviously (and thankfully) didn't work.
I think you were just trying to show me how ridiculously offensive I was being. It's all good, man. Just a friendly debate.
he lived. isn't that the important part here?
he lived. HE lived. Someone who has HIV and decides to munch on daisies instead of taking their immune boosting medicine will not be so fortunate. My point is that people drop normal medicine for homeopathic medicine. Which is bad.
I can't help but wonder if you're buying into the system of doctors and such, and not even considering the possibility that there are better, possibly cheaper, and less invasive alternatives out there?
Well first off, swallowing a pill or eating some herbs (I assume in your food) are just about equally invasive. For cost, there's medical insurance, and as far as "better" goes, I'll always trust the thing put through rigorous trials is "better" than the thing you dug out of your back yard and fed to me. And, as far as I can see, doctors are good. They are professionals that tell you what will actually help you, instead of back when the plague ruled the world and people tried all kinds of crazy stuff to protect themselves. Spoiler: They didn't work.



I feel like I'm abusing the hr line, which I saw badspot say somewhere not to do, but oh well. I just wanted to say two things.

First, I want to make sure this argument doesn't escalate into unfriendly territory, and assure you I'm not trying to personally insult you. This is majorly because of:

Second, I respect you. I have been in your position innumerable times, where literally everyone is against me. But, unlike you, I normally kick the stuff out of them and leave them speechless in their argument against me. But that's because I only argue about things I know a lot about. So, I respect you for doing exactly what I'd do. Break every post up into manageable statements and counter every single one of their points to the best of your ability. I don't like that others are fighting my point for me, I just feel like I'm kicking you when you're down. I much prefer when it's more like a fight scene where I'm Bruce Lee and the bad guys are a circle around me and I just get to walk all over all of their faces.

slick you're writing essays calm down

goddamn that's a huge essay

slick flipping out like usual

i think all that pot is making you bipolar

slick flipping out like usual

i think all that pot is making you bipolar
i don't even smoke pot, and

" assure you I'm not trying to personally insult you."

Not flipping out. Simply arguing.

Player is going to die: 22 pages and counting of sob

Player already died: 16 pages of "He was cool."
The difference is that Gamefandan is pretty well known. I have no idea who HPRC is.