louisiana school forces pregnancy tests, those who refuse/+ are kicked out

[Dodger]

Once again, that doesn't... make love an immoral or otherwise bad act? It's designed for impregnation but you and I both know it's much more than that. Besides, there are things out there designed to stop pregnancy. I don't see why the girl should be blamed if the condom breaks or the pills mess up, or anything else that could possibly happen.

I believe it should still be done between people of maturity and self sufficiency and willing to commit with to each other (if not already) in the case there is a conception, but I think neither of us are going to change our mind on this moral issue off of an internet forum discussion.

And even if she willingly had unprotected love, that's her right, and the school does not have a right to deny her education based upon that, nor does it have a right to deny her education should she not willingly submit to an illegal and invasive medical test.

I never agreed with that, however I do disagree with promiscuity on a personal level (in terms of casual loveual relations), especially underage, but I do not hate on people that do

Also, you know, love has numerous long-term positive impacts that benefit society in many ways: one of them being people.

Sometimes you can have too much of a good thing, one of those things being people (overpopulation, etc.). I could say weapons are a good thing, providing for self defense and increased efficiency in hunting, but with irresponsible people having an abundant access to and misusing them, it could produce unwanted results such as injury, death, damage, etc.. I understand weapons too can be used in a safe manner, but

Anyways, I would welcome a response to see your viewpoint if I am legitimately flawed in any aspects, but I do not wish this to become a heated or prolonged debate, following Jairo, because I'm tired and should cut it off soon.

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[Bisjac]

and the article is purposely being biased on the issue. and it dosnt even report the whole definition of being "kicked out"

when you are pregnant and made to do homeschool, you are given a public school curriculum. and you still go to the school to take tests.
this was voted in as a way to help these girls deal with pregnancy much easier as they could study from home.


but no. you hippies CHOOSE to understand the half of it all

[Dusty12]

Bisjac, the issue here is that they've taken it upon themselves to expel any student who doesn't willingly submit to the invasive procedure, and to expel any student who comes up positive on the test. That's illegal, and it's also the only thing that matters. So no, no amount of petty 'justification' will make this infringement alright. There are far better ways to handle it.

PS when it comes to school and 'kick out' there's only really one plausible definition.

In reply to Dodger: The only areas I feel you are legitimately flawed are in regard to how love should be treated. Things like maturity vary from person to person and are in no way related to age, whereas love being restricted to people who want to commit is just an absurd idea. But this is an argument that could go back and forth all night so I'll just drop it so you can get some rest (and I need some too). You're right, we probably won't change each other's minds.

[Bisjac]

Bisjac, the issue here is that they've taken it upon themselves to expel any student who doesn't willingly submit to the invasive procedure
no they dont expel. or you are just very uninformed on what that word means.

and to expel any student who comes up positive on the test. That's illegal, and it's also the only thing that matters. So no, no amount of petty 'justification' will make this infringement alright. There are far better ways to handle it.
the UCLA would enjoy agreeing with you. but the constitution only applies to the parts of public schools directly affected by federal funding. like curriculum changes and paychecks.
the building, being in the building, and being given an education, is all state. where the constitution dosnt fully apply.

behold the power of the state. silly americans dont have as many rights as they tell themselves they do. and they arent even aware of why

[ATKitton.]

Serves them sluts right!
Girls in school dont know how to keep their legs shut. Why bitch about privacy when inbetween their legs is public knowledge? Girls think having a baby is like having a new purse. Public humiliation serves them right. Its about time schools start cracking down on reckless kids.

[Bisjac]

why is it the UCLA isnt throwing a fit about my right to bare arms at school? technically that should apply everywhere, but the terrible schools wont allow me to bring it in.

perhaps the states decide above that as well.

[Dusty12]

why is it the UCLA isnt throwing a fit about my right to bare arms at school? technically that should apply everywhere, but the terrible schools wont allow me to bring it in.

Federal law states you cannot bring a firearm within a certain area of a school area. This is exempted in most states if you have a permit.

Furthermore, you're contesting me over the usage of 'kicked out', which only has one applicable definition in this scenario. You're grasping at straws.

[Bisjac]

Federal law states you cannot bring a firearm within a certain area of a school area. This is exempted in most states if you have a permit.

Furthermore, you're contesting me over the usage of 'kicked out', which only has one applicable definition in this scenario. You're grasping at straws.

im saying the article is lieing. these girls are not being denied education. the law goes very far to help them greatly.
its all set up in favor of the pregnant girl.
unlike regular homeschooling (where the parent does it)
the pregnant girl gets the government curriculum just as she was using in school.

you are all caught up on the fantastic buzzwords that are sold to you. the article makes sure to say over and over again that the girls are being discriminated against. when its just not true. but it makes you chicks get all worked up angry over it lol.

dont be such a tool. if you dont know whats actually happening to those girls, then you shouldnt be reacting.

the ACLU cant even be trusted. they are bought and sold just as any politician. they talk lots and accomplish nothing.

[Dusty12]

Allow me to repeat myself - the issue is that they are being kicked out of school. I'm fully aware they aren't being denied education, and that's what homeschooling is for. The red flag rises when the school expels their students for not submitting to the test, or for being pregnant, which they are not allowed to do. It's not legal.

It has nothing do with the availability of education, but rather it has to do with them being kicked out. Whether or not they get a private teacher to school them at home is not an issue. The school has no right to forbid them from taking classes there due to pregnancy or refusing to submit to the test.

[Bisjac]

Allow me to repeat myself - the issue is that they are being kicked out of school. I'm fully aware they aren't being denied education, and that's what homeschooling is for. The red flag rises when the school expels their students for not submitting to the test, or for being pregnant, which they are not allowed to do. It's not legal.

schools require you to register your meds to them. and to list all major health issues they must be aware of.
pregnancy is a pretty damn major one. and when most chicks would just as well keep it a secret as long as they can, it only harms the school. if there is a medical emergency and a student is injured, there are lawsuits incoming because it was discovered the damn girl was also pregnant. and wasnt treated as such.

dont blame evil schools. blame yourselves for being ultra sensitive and suing the tax money away from schools so often over the years. either they protect themselves and prevent issues, or there are  no more schools.

whats legal changes every year. the constitution is a great idea, but it would have caused all schools to go under and cease to exist. the entity that is the public school system needed its own rights as well.

and if you havnt noticed. during the last 12 years, nearly EVERY bit of the constitution has been officially bypassed for any use by agencies.
you are so concerned over these few rights, when all of them have been long gone anyways lol

[Harm94]

and if you havnt noticed. during the last 12 years, nearly EVERY bit of the constitution has been officially bypassed for any use by agencies.

This reminds me about how public schools and making students do community service in order to graduate. I'm pretty sure you can't force people to work without pay because even the convicts who make our license plates and clean our highways are paid money for their labor.

[Man 2]

Well it's not quite ethical to force people to, though I don't at the same time. It's not like it hurts anything if you're not pregnant to take a pregnancy test.
And it's not like it's a bad thing to weed out the teen moms.

[PowerDag]

before anyone says it (probably already have)

abstinence ain't cool man

[Pitbull]

HOW ABOUT

NO love

HOW ABOUT

LOOSE YOUR TESTICLES.

[ShadowYoshi294]

HOW ABOUT

LOOSE YOUR TESTICLES.

BETTER IDEA

CONDOMS