Team Fortress 2 Megatopic + Trade: SCREAM FORTRESS? MORE LIKE JUNGLE INFERNO!

[Freeze]

Degreaser is overused.

Maybe there's a reason why.
Because it's mostly better... maybe?

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[Timezbrick]

6 - 7/10
you can't see the whiskered gentlemen
back  isn't that good (it's okay... but meh)
and on a personal opinion degreaser is better

whiskered gentlemen is hard to see but it looks nice whn you can see it.
And I like the back-scratcher because I most of the time wander around the map +dmg bonus

[Jokey365]

Maybe there's a reason why.
Because it's mostly better... maybe?

Too many people think it's better.
I hate it and anyone that uses it.

[Moogi]

Yeah but fact is there is pretty much no reason to use any other flamer IF you want to gain as much as possible

[Freeze]

Too many people think it's better.

That's because it is in most cases...
You're just trying to be different lol.

Also the only reason you'd use back scratcher is; a. you play medieval b. for the +hp
The dmg is worse than degreaser + axting (as well as probably normal + axting)

[Jokey365]

That's because it is in most cases...
You're just trying to be different lol.
No. Don't assume that because you (And almost every Pyro player) have a different opinion than me.

Also the only reason you'd use back scratcher is; a. you play medieval b. for the +hp
The dmg is worse than degreaser + axting (as well as probably normal + axting)
I never said I used the Back Scratcher what.

[Freeze]

Give me a couple good reasons why any flamethrower is better than the degreaser?
And obviously the back scratcher comment was directed at Timez... lol

[Jokey365]

Give me a couple good reasons why any flamethrower is better than the degreaser?
And obviously the back scratcher comment was directed at Timez... lol

Backburner; Kills stupid fast from behind. Occupied Heavy Medic combos won't see it coming, and it takes less time than the airblast and Axtinguisher chop.
Phlogistinator; Can clear a point/area if the Pyro doesn't run at it from out in the open like an idiot.
Stock; Doesn't have an afterburn damage penalty. That can really make a difference if the enemy is low and can't find health.

[Freeze]

Backburner; Kills stupid fast from behind. Occupied Heavy Medic combos won't see it coming, and it takes less time than the airblast and Axtinguisher chop.
Phlogistinator; Can clear a point/area if the Pyro doesn't run at it from out in the open like an idiot.
Stock; Doesn't have an afterburn damage penalty. That can really make a difference if the enemy is low and can't find health.

1. I'm pretty sure it isn't quicker?
2. Any smart player at all will easily murder a phlog pyro. Valve gave pyro airblast because it was under powered before.
3. You know what else can? Killing them quickly with shotgun/flare/axe.

[Jokey365]

1. I'm pretty sure it isn't quicker?
2. Any smart player at all will easily murder a phlog pyro. Valve gave pyro airblast because it was under powered before.
3. You know what else can? Killing them quickly with shotgun/flare/axe.

1. Check in game, it is. EDIT: Plus it can take out multiple enemies at once.
2. That's why the Pyro ambushes. Comes out of nowhere.
3. Arg.

[Freeze]

1. Check in game, it is.
2. That's why the Pyro ambushes. Comes out of nowhere.
3. Arg.

1. I sort of doubt it does 195+ dmg within a second or two...
2. It's not that simple.

[Jokey365]

1. I sort of doubt it does 195+ dmg within a second or two...
2. It's not that simple.

1. Official Wiki says
Crit (Max):
460.5 / sec
2. The Pyro can kill them by the time the enemy can do a decent amount of damage.

[Moogi]

The fact that you can kill a heavymedic faster (which is not even remotely close to the role of pyro) is not going to outweight the pros of the degreaser

[Jokey365]

The fact that you can kill a heavymedic faster (which is not even remotely close to the role of pyro) is not going to outweight the pros of the degreaser

You kill anything faster, heck if you're not horrible you could probably take out an entire push.

[Dusty12]

How to play Degreaser pyro: M2M2M2M2M2M2M2