Math Question

[Aware]

Zero is an indeterminate form, it's just nothing. It's a lack thereof a number.
It's like saying pure black is a color. It isn't, it's nothing. You can only tell it is there because of it's surroundings. It can't be seen.

If that is your logic, explain to me negative numbers.

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[weaver123]

If that is your logic, explain to me negative numbers.

Negative numbers are numbers with a negative value, why do I have to explain this? Negative numbers can still be divisible.

[Aware]

Negative numbers are numbers with a negative value, why do I have to explain this? Negative numbers can still be divisible.

Then zero would be a number without a value.

[Jacob 123456789]

Negative numbers are numbers with a negative value, why do I have to explain this? Negative numbers can still be divisible.

Correct. Zero is just a placeholder in most cases. It is the essence of nothingness.

Then zero would be a number without a value.

It has no value.

[weaver123]

Correct. Zero is just a placeholder in most cases. It is the essence of nothingness.
It has no value.

Zero is an indeterminate form, it's just nothing. It's a lack thereof a number.
It's like saying pure black is a color. It isn't, it's nothing. You can only tell it is there because of it's surroundings. It can't be seen.
Zero isn't a part of this equation.

[Jacob 123456789]

Which is what I'm saying. Why are you quoting yourself? Am I wrong?

[Aware]

I don't get it, are you trying to tell me zero doesn't exist? I know it has no value.

I may be misreading.

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[weaver123]

Which is what I'm saying. Why are you quoting yourself? Am I wrong?

I don't even know why I quoted that, actually.
I'm going to go to bed.

I don't get it, are you trying to tell me zero doesn't exist? I know it has no value.

I may be misreading.

Zero exists, it just isn't a number. It's a placeholder symbol to show that there is no number. It can show value, but it has no value.

[Jacob 123456789]

I don't even know why I quoted that, actually.
I'm going to go to bed.

:F

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You need more maths in your brain.

I don't get it, are you trying to tell me zero doesn't exist? I know it has no value.

I may be misreading.

It does exist, it's just used to indicate nothing. 1,001, for example, is just one-thousand one, but in digit form, you have to see that it's actually one-thousand one, or else you just see 11.

I think that's what both weaver and I are saying.

[Aware]

Okay, I thought you were attempting to claim zero didn't exist.

[Jacob 123456789]

If zero didn't exist, we couldn't use binary!

1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, 1000, 1001, 1010, 1100, 1101

God I love it.

[weaver123]

Okay, I thought you were attempting to claim zero didn't exist.

It exists only as a lack of a number, or a placeholder. It's something that is there, but doesn't actually exist. Every fabric of this universe's existence has some sort of physical value, except zero. Zero is the space in between.

[Wynd_Fox]

Zero has no value in that it represents nothing.

EDIT: My wording was unclear. It represents the lack of anything, I guess.

[Aware]

Zero has no value in that it represents nothing.

Zero represents no value.

edit: I see it now