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Tax the rich to support the poor?

No
Yes
I don't care

Author Topic: The Great Debate (Topic 1: Tax the rich to support the poor via the government?)  (Read 1756 times)

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« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 09:18:07 PM by Gartanium »

The first topic:

Taxing the rich and giving to the poor.
You may ask your self, why do people believe in taxing the rich, and spreading wealth to the poor? I believe that there are two divided camps on the issue.

For: Spreading wealth to the poor is a good thing, so that the poor can benefit from those who have more, and so that the rich will give back to society, so to speak.

Against: Taxing the rich more then the poor is a bad thing, because the rich work hard for their money, and they should decide how, where, who, or if they should give money away.


What is your view on the topic, and why? Like in the hunger games, Let the debate begin!

For support of the early debating, here are some quotes! (Note, I may or may not agree with them, I will try to stay unbiased).

50% of a poor person's wealth is worth more than 50% of a rich person's wealth to each person.

Giving to the poor is extremely important because in a state of complete poverty they are useless to their country. Even those who are poor but are making a living would benefit from extra money since that money recirculates through the economy.

Most of the poor or homeless who were just failures and put themselves in that position.

I do believe we should support the poor, but I believe it should be done through individual kindness. I have a large amount of faith in most of humanity, and I do believe that people will step up to help others who are in need. Making a tax to accomplish this might force people to participate, but it will cause a gigantic stuffstorm. Just my opinion though.

Someone once said that a nation is represented by the treatment of the lowest of its citizens. This is very true in this case. Those affected by poverty should be helped. Society should not be a financial free-for-all. Newsflash, we might need to *gasp* work together!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 10:23:44 PM by Gartanium »

This is going to crash fast. I can feel it

anything involving rational argumentation is the bane of all forum peacekeeping



I'm debating about this debate

50% of a poor person's wealth is worth more than 50% of a rich person's wealth to each person.

Woo republicans.
Mitt Romney 4lyfe

This forum smells like 50% cheese and 50% drama!

I typed up an educated argument on the topic at hand, but then realized that this topic is probably just going to crash and burn anyway.

I love socialism and big government so yes spread the wealth
SPREAD IT LIKE BUTTER

Giving to the poor is extremely important because in a state of complete poverty they are useless to their country. Even those who are poor but are making a living would benefit from extra money since that money recirculates through the economy.

I typed up an educated argument on the topic at hand, but then realized that this topic is probably just going to crash and burn anyway.

Feel free to share your thoughts. Even if the topic crashes and burns, you wont be hurting your self by posting what you have to say!

Feel free to share your thoughts. Even if the topic crashes and burns, you wont be hurting your self by posting what you have to say!

All righty then.

Someone once said that a nation is represented by the treatment of the lowest of its citizens. This is very true in this case. Those affected by poverty should be helped. Society should not be a financial free-for-all. Newsflash, we might need to *gasp* work together!