2012/09/12 - Steam Greenlight

[sir dooble]

haven't entered this topic in a while

did I miss anything

Not really.
We're still waiting for the 30^th to see if we get greenlit or not.
And after that we'll either be greenlit or waiting for the Christmas greenlighting.


And there was a big multi-page discussion a little bit back about who we would like to make promo-videos or Let's Plays of Blockland, out of well known YouTube members.

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[Green Blockhead²]

Are tf2 promos even a possibility? I think you kind of have to pay money to get things from your game featured in tf2.

Not really, just put it up in Steam Workshop and you don't have to pay money, YOU get paid.

[sir dooble]

Not really, just put it up in Steam Workshop and you don't have to pay money, YOU get paid.

No, you're thinking of something else.

That's when someone with no affiliation to any company makes a new item and submits.
In that case, if Valve likes your item they may pay you for use of it.


In the case of a game promo you would likely have to pay money to have the item included, since it's something that is for your company's benefit only.

When you put something on Steam Workshop and they like it, I don't think it can be modelled on an item from another game or company, since you don't own the rights to it.

[Legodude77]

No, you're thinking of something else.

That's when someone with no affiliation to any company makes a new item and submits.
In that case, if Valve likes your item they may pay you for use of it.


In the case of a game promo you would likely have to pay money to have the item included, since it's something that is for your company's benefit only.

When you put something on Steam Workshop and they like it, I don't think it can be modelled on an item from another game or company, since you don't own the rights to it.

Then what if badspot uploaded them?

[sir dooble]

Then what if badspot uploaded them?

I don't know what Steam's T&C's for Workshop is or what their personal rules are on who they approach for trying to add things in, but I don't think they would let you create promotional items for TF2 and add them in for free.


When you see new games arriving on Steam and they do a special pre-order bonus where you recieve a promo TF2-Item based on the game you're purchasing, that has gone through a deal in a different way to Workshop.
In that situation the owner of the game has asked Steam if they could do a promotional deal with them for TF2 items. In that scenario Steam would ask that the game owner pays them for that promo.

With Workshop it is different. Steam chooses what stuff they put in. And they won't put promotional stuff in and pay you for it.
Because otherwise, what does Steam get out of this? They have to pay you for it and then give you the chance to have promotional items in TF2.


Workshop is something that is used by regular fans to make regularly interesting items that aren't promotional in any way. This is a deal, but not promotional, so Steam gets the most out of it (a new item for them to sell in-game) and so they pay you money for it.

Promotional Items are used by companies selling a game on Steam in order to promote their own game. This is a business deal and the game company gets the most out of it, so they pay Steam money. And Steam gives the item for free for pre-ordering. They can't sell the item in their in-game market.

[Swat 3]

Wait:

So what if Blockland allows another game to do promotional things, what happens?

[sir dooble]

Wait:

So what if Blockland allows another game to do promotional things, what happens?

I don't know what you mean.

TF2 is owned by Valve/Steam. If you have a game coming out on steam, or is on steam, you can pay valve to have a promotional TF2 item created and used as a freebie for buying your game.

When you create an item for TF2 and put it on Workshop Valve/Steam may buy it off you so they can sell it in game. They won't take items from Workshop which promote another game, even if it is on Steam. If they did then that game would be getting free advertising via TF2.


Imagine a bus company. It might sell the space on the side of the bus for advertising. Or they might just put a pretty picture up for free. But they're not going to put up a pretty picture that also advertises another company or product for free, because then that company or product is getting the same publicity they could already purchase from the bus company, but instead they wouldn't pay anything.

[Crêpe]

Badspot is simpley not talking since he is on his secret mission in italy.
Badspot 5: Italian take down
Its a really fun game!

you forgot Badspot 6: Rudolphs Joyride

[bejacks]

But Blockland already has TF2 items....

[sir dooble]

But Blockland already has TF2 items....

We're discusing TF2 Items that are themed after Blockland, for use in TF2 as promotional items.
Like, imagine changing a pistol for the scout to look like the default gun, or a Soldier having our default Rocket Launcher, or a Sniper having our default bow.

[Paradon]

I doubt promos are even a possibility.

[lordician]

We're discusing TF2 Items that are themed after Blockland, for use in TF2 as promotional items.
Like, imagine changing a pistol for the scout to look like the default gun, or a Soldier having our default Rocket Launcher, or a Sniper having our default bow.

I would love to see this. :)

[Trogtor]

Lol tf2 promos

[The True Zephyr]

For a second there, I thought that was real.

[Jacksaunt]

For a second there, I thought that was real.

And then you saw that Blockland has negitive antialiasing enabled.