Author Topic: Athiesm  (Read 12542 times)

Guys, if this helps at all, "creature" is one that is created by the creator, because create, creat. The creator is not created, because then he would be the creature - and a creature cannot create, it can only make. To create is to make something out of nothing, and the creator creates because it made everything out of nothing. It created time, and lives outside of time, in eternity. An angel is a creature because it was created. So is a demon. So are humans. Even non-living things are creatures because they are created by the creator.

That was a buttload of crap confusion, but what I am trying to say is the creator creates creatures, which can only make because they are not the creator. The creator cannot be created, because then he would be a creature - one that is created. Creatures can only make things out of created things. Also, because the creator exists outside of time, because time was created by the creator, the creator exists outside of time. This also means that before the earth existed in time, it existed outside of time - in the creator's mind. It was the creator's will for it to be created at that time, for whatever cause it was that it came to be created - it just was. After all, it's right here, and we're standing on it, right? The creator can also create out of logic, or laws of physics, because he created them and can go around them. We can't because we are created in those laws, and can only be brought around them - like the one disciple who walked on water with Jesus. The creator decided that he would become one of us on earth, and still be a spiritual deity watching from heaven. Because Jesus was man, but was also God, he could perform miracles that defied the laws of physics and logic, because he created logic and physical laws. Jesus also took part in the creation, along with the Holy spirit. They all existed at once, and are one God, but three persons. You can ask God, "What are you?" He would reply, "God." If you asked, "Who are you?" He would answer, "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit." Once again, because God existed outside of time, that's why they all were there during the creation. He can also enter time, yet be outside of it because he created time, and can be omni-present because it is in his will. He also created things out of his willing thought, because he can't take his hands and make things - he can only create them out of nothing. The creator - God - made all of the stars, planets, galaxies, and other celestial objects to keep us alive. The sun warms us. The moon controls the tides and keeps the earth in balance. Everything else was created so that we may honor his creation - he created everything that exists, and he wants us to be grateful for it. God also allowed sin, temptation, and suffering into the world because we failed the first command God ever gave us - don't eat the freaking fruit on that one freaking tree right over there in the CENTER of the garden where EVERYONE CAN SEE IT SO THAT THEY DON'T CONFUSE IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE. So, he allowed sin, suffering, and temptation into the world. But he loved us infinitely, and he wanted to show it to us. He actually really meant that he would die for us, in the most horrible, painful way, even though he had never committed a single sin ever. This opened the gates of heaven for us, allowing us to live with him in eternal paradise - on three conditions. 1. Believe in Him. 2. Love him as much as you can. 3. Obey him. But, he only asks us of these things, because we have free will, and he can take it away from us - except he just won't. He made an eternal promise to grant us free will, so he lets us choose whether or not we go to heaven. But, Jesus also taught us how to completely ensure your access to heaven - it's just not easy, because we are human. We are not perfect. We are tempted and distracted. But he grants us three things - Holy communion, Confession, and Purgatory. Holy communion is when you attend Holy Mass at a church, usually on a Sunday, and at the end of the Mass, you walk up to the priest and receive a round piece of bread. But it is not only bread, it is the Host. It is Jesus himself, as he said at the last supper, and because he is divine on one part, his will is done. When you receive communion, Jesus is inside you, and he erases any venial or small sin that you have committed, such as not sharing with a friend or being stubborn or mean. Jesus will forgive you of these sins during this event, but the bigger ones need something more - Confession. Sacramental confession is when you enter a confessional, and you confess your sins to the priest. If you are truly sorry to God for offending him with these sins, then the priest will absolve you of them (erase them through Christ). Then, he will give you a penance (saying the Hail Mary prayer a number of times, praying the Holy Rosary #x, ect.). Purgatory is a spiritual state of your soul being cleansed of its sins, because you cannot enter heaven if your soul is stained by sin. In purgatory, these sins are washed from your soul and you can enter heaven afterwards. The amount of time depends on how 'dirty' your soul is, and cannot be interpreted by us, because once dead, it is very rare to come back, and we don't come back after leaving purgatory. So that's a lot of explaining to possible questions.

..wow, it's a ton. Sorry, no summarization, so there's no excuse for not remembering something in my post except that you didn't read it all and skipped a bunch, which really makes things freaking difficult later on.

My God, how long did that take?

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Holy stuff.

What do you mean "people like you"?
people who use the most standard occurrences as proof for bullstuff

i mean seriously, really good movies give me chills, amazing music gives me chills. it's a regular bodily response to a variety of things and isn't you "feeling ghosts"

you will not go far in life if you cling to the mindset you're currently in

If god isn't real then why is Riddler dead?
Christians: 1
Atheists: 0

I'm an atheist, not an athiest. :cookieMonster:

If god isn't real then why is Riddler dead?
Christians: 1
Atheists: 0
If god is real then why was Riddler created

people who use the most standard occurrences as proof for bullstuff

i mean seriously, really good movies give me chills, amazing music gives me chills. it's a regular bodily response to a variety of things and isn't you "feeling ghosts"

you will not go far in life if you cling to the mindset you're currently in

I hate loving people like you, hypocritical. I can name numerous times where I could be laying down and this cold breeze of air just comes by. Don't give me that stuff.

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

YOU ARE ALL LAME

FEEL BAD YOU BORING PEOPLE

EINSTEIN (A SMART SCIENTIST) SAID IT!

If god is real then why was Riddler created
God also allowed sin, temptation, and suffering into the world because we failed the first command God ever gave us - don't eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

It's like the good man Kurt Vonnegut once said. "Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying."

I hate loving people like you, hypocritical. I can name numerous times where I could be laying down and this cold breeze of air just comes by. Don't give me that stuff.
How is he a hypocrite?  You're trying to twist common physics into some imaginary ploy to help comfort what you don't understand.  You're not only ignorant, but a jerk.

OH BOY

I'm tired I don't know what I'm saying.
Basically I was not trying to give the impression that theories are unproven, but many of them don't have enough evidence to fully back them up.

Science isn't always correct and people aren't always right.

Just to clarify before anyone else brings it up.

How is he a hypocrite?  You're trying to twist common physics into some imaginary ploy to help comfort what you don't understand.  You're not only ignorant, but a jerk.

I'm speaking my mind, like what I was raised to do. He complains about my bullstuff and all he posts is bullstuff.


I'm tired I don't know what I'm saying.
Basically I was not trying to give the impression that theories are unproven, but many of them don't have enough evidence to fully back them up.

For example...? I'd like to know what theories, exactly, you think are more or less faulty.

I'm speaking my mind, like what I was raised to do. He complains about my bullstuff and all he posts is bullstuff.
how is what i'm saying bullstuff? I'm attributing random chills to the functioning and malfunctioning of our nervous system

you're attributing it to ghosts

who sounds like the rational one here?