Today's Mainstream Music v. Classic Music

[SpreadsPlague]

his argument against rap is really stupid. if it's so easy why doesn't he go make a number 1 hit rap song? he said it's "very easy to do."

I'm expecting it by tomorrow otherwise I think you're full of stuff.

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[ShadowsfeaR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaVhDQfa3I

Rap AND metal at the same time. And it's amazing. There's really awesome singing towards the end.

[otto-san]

There has always been and always will be terrible music.

The problem now is that some (Emphasis on some.) of this terrible music gets more publicity than music that people pour their heart and soul into to get something that's actually spectacular.

i can also agree that it's really dumb when music seems to have lyrics just for the sake of having them
there's no real purpose to them or any cleverness or subtlety sometimes, and it's kinda odd

This isn't specific to music nowadays though.

I understand where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree, however, I can't say I agree entirely.

There's lots of psychological and sociological reasoning I could put here, but that's way too much for me to try and talk about here.

Music is changing. It always has. And it's always a rocky road.

[-Blok-]

his argument against rap is really stupid. if it's so easy why doesn't he go make a number 1 hit rap song? he said it's "very easy to do."

I'm expecting it by tomorrow otherwise I think you're full of stuff.

I meant that compared to making a really good classic rock song not someone who has no experience. I did exaggerate on some points too.

that whole argument against rap was kind of silly.

1. you cant really compare them to the classic rock genre, they are completely different.
2. anything sounds easy when you word it to sound that way, if someone handed you the lyrics to a rap song and you tried to go up and perform it you wouldn't be good at it. its a lot more compliciated then you think it is. not to mention writing the lyrics is just as hard as writing the lyrics to a classic rock song. and dont say "oh all rap songs lyrics are just 'forget bitches money money' and really simple", because i have heard some really crappy classic rock that is about as creative as a braindead turtle with no shell.
3. the whole "the way they are doing it is dumb therefore the other genre is better" gig is silly too. someone who makes bikes for a living is not automatically better and more distinguished then someone who works on a factory line just because what they do requires more skill.

i mean i get what you are saying, that maybe music isn't what it used to be but i mean why would it? the world changes constantly with the society it is made of.

This was in the first part of my post. I said that I am not really comparing how different the genre's are, I am defining how good the song is by the skill required, the meaning behind the songs and the reason people listen to them.

You guys think I am bashing on all music that is made today and I am not. It's all just my opinion.

[Katadeus]

I listen to Imogen Heap, Great Big Sea, Afro Celtic Sound System, Nickel Creek, Natalie MacMaster (saw her and her husband live, and it was amazing), and Sting, in terms of recent talented music. These, in my opinion, are some of the greatest artists/groups of this time and they stand up well to their predecessors.
I also realize that my tastes are by no means mainstream.

[-Blok-]

There has always been and always will be terrible music.

The problem now is that some (Emphasis on some.) of this terrible music gets more publicity than music that people pour their heart and soul into to get something that's actually spectacular.

i can also agree that it's really dumb when music seems to have lyrics just for the sake of having them
there's no real purpose to them or any cleverness or subtlety sometimes, and it's kinda odd

This isn't specific to music nowadays though.

I understand where you're coming from, and I somewhat agree, however, I can't say I agree entirely.

There's lots of psychological and sociological reasoning I could put here, but that's way too much for me to try and talk about here.

Music is changing. It always has. And it's always a rocky road.

Thank you for your feedback. At least someone understands where I am coming from. D=

[Wynd_Fox]

Not factoring in how it sounds seems mighty silly. It's going to be entirely subjective, of course, but still.

[Cybersix]

You shouldn't have to dig around if they are amazing.

To be honest you always had to "dig around" for good bands. Over saturation of stuffty acts have always been there, we look back fondly on certain bands because they were ahead of their time/ were doing something better. Then again there well always be the bands that took the world by storm and became instant legends ex. The Beatles.

[otto-san]

by the skill required

ah, so when you listen to a song, you like being able to be impressed by knowing "wow, that's an actual human doing those actual difficult things, i can admire that!"

i get it, that actually makes sense. i don't really think that way, but i'm probably also not as interested in music as you haha

[SpreadsPlague]

lol this is what you said about today's music in terms of meaning:

Either the meaning of a song isn't interesting, it is about something stupid, like drugs or alcohol all the time, or it doesn't have a meaning at all. I like how some of today's songs sound. I listen to them once or twice and that's it. I get bored of it and move on. This is because the meaning behind the song is either stupid or nonexistent.

what kind of stuffty music are you listening to? you can't summarize all of today's music with this

extremely biased. then again you played the opinion card so you probably don't care. horrible way of conveying a point.

[ShadowsfeaR]

you like being able to be impressed by knowing "wow, that's an actual human doing those actual difficult things, i can admire that!"

Yes, and many pop artists today lack that.

[-Blok-]

lol this is what you said about today's music in terms of meaning:

what kind of stuffty music are you listening to? you can't summarize all of today's music with this

extremely biased. then again you played the opinion card so you probably don't care. horrible way of conveying a point.

Gah. You have to understand that this is a huge generalization. I understand that there are some good bands. I am saying that the majority of the more known bands (if you can call them that) are bad in my opinion.

[-Blok-]

Yes, and many pop artists today lack that.

Yeah, this is one of my bigger points.

[ShadowsfeaR]

Yeah, this is one of my bigger points.

Okay, then it's not "today's music", its today's pop music.

[Dodger]

Gah. You have to understand that this is a huge generalization. I understand that there are some good bands. I am saying that the majority of the more known bands (if you can call them that) are bad in my opinion.

Then look for the actually good, lesser known bands

A good amount of people will always subjectively have bad taste in music. Trust me, I used to be like you, but you have to accept it man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvFNOBkZGiA Would have never found this gem without looking