Hundreds of rape victims loveually harassed at once by batstuff crazy man

[snozola]

Can you please be more specific?

Yes I can, thank you for asking.  Jesus would have never said it was the victim's fault.  He would have loved both parties in the conflict.  He would have wanted the victims to recover from their traumatic event, even if they had made a mistake.

Jesus is about forgiveness right?  He would have forgiven the rape victims for making a mistake, (which I don't think is the only reason for getting raped).  He would have been about picking the person back up.  You keep saying:

If it's something as revolting as a "Slut walk" then yes. I wouldn't be mad. I'd be rather proud of him because he's taking a stand against the people who try to shift the blame on everyone else for their own stupid mistakes.

that they should pay for "their" mistakes.  You think it is ok to bash recovering rape victims.

Honestly, I can't say I wouldn't have seen something like this coming at an event with such a name. Children shouldn't even be present at it in the first place. These women are basically saying it's not their fault they got raped when they had been setting themselves up as a perfect target for such criminals. That is what I find truly despicable. They're lazy, sick-minded blame-shifters and this guy is showing how they're not interested in feminism as much as they are trying to undermine society even further. Just look at the pictures of them glaring at the guy and blasting air horns in his face and giving him middle-fingers. Their faces clearly show their hearts are all filled with hate.

I wonder why they are glaring and yelling at him?  Maybe because he pulled a jackass move.  He is the one full of hate.  The walkers reacted in the way anybody would if not more gentle. 

Why don't you look up what the walk is about first huh?  It is about rape victims a chance to get back up and be among other people who have been able to get back up.  You are siding with the guy who thinks it is ok to keep these people down...

so then what exactly are you suggesting? even you can see the lost cause unless woman take more responsibility.

patting them on the back to feed them self esteem for their "loss" dosnt do jack stuff.

But it does do jackstuff.  It is a place for rape victims to recover and be among others who have recovered. 

what exactly is there to defend them for lol
the rapes have occurred. you want me to follow a girl around all day, and remind every male that comes within 5 feet of her that shes a respectable girl whom he cant force her legs open?

the entire point is that only the woman can prepare themselves (or avoid) for a future rape. no one else.

and everything you feminists are going on about is contrary to that.

you can be a bleeding heart about it all but you are actually less helpful to the issue then i am. i have real solutions while you want to hold a sign or some stuff.

Once a-loving-gain, it is not only WOMEN.  Men have been raped also!  So this can't possibly be white knight or feminist situation! 

You are helping?  You go to colleges and give talks about self-defense and rape prevention?  The walk isn't about the issue of preventing rape it is about helping the people who come after the action of rape. 

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[snozola]

aaaand it's getting a little too real
getting out of here now

bye

[Bisjac]

Yes, we're aware that there are steps women can take to prevent rape from happening but this isn't always the case

well there are an average of 15 real abductions a month (2009, so it cant be far off from today) and the 1000 a day stat only refers o custody battles of parents, not real abductions taking place. certainly not rape related.

lets just assume ALL of these are rapes. we know thats not even close to true. but dont matter for now.

well there were about 190,000 reported cases of rape(and statutory) in 2005. current stats i dont know. but they cant be far off higher or lower.
the same stats say 99% of rapists were male so thats close enough to use to refer to woman rape victims.

so thats about 190,000 rapes a year
and about 180 actual abductions a year

therefore 198,820 rapes are avoidable. and 180 woman were legitimately raped and should be babied as this topic tries to.


because its true. the teenage girl who sneaks out to some party, and some drunk guy feels up her tits. bam.... she declares rape and its a statistical rape.
that dirl dosnt really deserve to be marching in these parades, acting like some awful victim, but thats how you guys treat her so she milks it.

[Bisjac]

But it does do jackstuff.  It is a place for rape victims to recover and be among others who have recovered.  
HOW is it helping? do they share stories, thus preventing rape in the future for womankind? derp lol

Once a-loving-gain, it is not only WOMEN.  Men have been raped also!  So this can't possibly be white knight or feminist situation!  
well that 1% i forgot about . even though this topic is about a WOMAN's march. yes it was intended to be about woman victims.

The walk isn't about the issue of preventing rape it is about helping the people who come after the action of rape.  
that helps how? awareness dosnt change outcomes of future crimes. sorry to tell you steps have to be take by future possible victims to prevent it the woman marching arent really trying to educate, just shout slogans and feel angry

[Funkadelic]

well its a long topic. but ive made it very very clear.

people keep jumping in and want to play the almighty white knight for all woman game when they dont even know the current discussion.

now you call everyone white knights because they beat you in an argument?

pathetic.

[Bisjac]

no i backed my stuff up very well. i call them a white knight because they are pro woman and con-real issues.
they dont really understand what goes on and are just reacting to headlines and middle school guest speakers who spread fear.

[Planr]

Yes I can, thank you for asking.  Jesus would have never said it was the victim's fault.  He would have loved both parties in the conflict.  He would have wanted the victims to recover from their traumatic event, even if they had made a mistake.

Jesus is about forgiveness right?  He would have forgiven the rape victims for making a mistake, (which I don't think is the only reason for getting raped).  He would have been about picking the person back up.  You keep saying:

And have you acted as a good example of "jesus's love"? I have to say no. I can't give you this kind of advice because that would make me just as much a hypocrite as you're being right now. You're right, but I won't accept the advice. You insulted me using my religion, and now you demand that I be nice to you. I do my best, but in the end I feel your only cause is one for insult. And I find that unacceptable. I won't accept advice from somebody who is going out of their way to flame and disrespect at the same time:

Plant you are pathetic, nice Christian mindset towards these people.  forget you.

[beachbum111111]

So let me get this straight. Bisjac is saying that it's a women's fault for getting raped and that the rapist shouldn't get a punishment

[Harm94]

So how about instead of protesting and giving people a pat on the back. We give them a pat on the back, we teach them self defense techniques, tell them to travel in groups, avoid empty streets and alleys, and avoid traveling at night.

So let me get this straight. Bisjac is saying that it's a women's fault for getting raped and that the rapist shouldn't get a punishment

No he is saying both should be accountable. Also Bisjac, I wouldn't call them white knights, rather simple minded fools who don't believe the facts present to them. Like a kid who plugs his/her ears and says "LALALALA I DON'T HEAR YOU!"

[RagnaTheBroedge]

So how about instead of protesting and giving people a pat on the back. We teach them common sense.

simplified your post for you

[Harm94]

People on this forum are too stupid to know what common sense is. Got to give them every detail, a source, and a scientifically proven source.

[RagnaTheBroedge]

a fair point, yeah

[Harm94]

So first we teach them what common sense is, then teach people how to prevent x event from happening in the first place.

[snozola]

And have you acted as a good example of "jesus's love"? I have to say no. I can't give you this kind of advice because that would make me just as much a hypocrite as you're being right now. You're right, but I won't accept the advice. You insulted me using my religion, and now you demand that I be nice to you. I do my best, but in the end I feel your only cause is one for insult. And I find that unacceptable. I won't accept advice from somebody who is going out of their way to flame and disrespect at the same time:

Good thing I am not Jesus, huh?  I don't care if you are nice to me or not.  I didn't give you advice I called you out on unloving behavior.  And you are right, it was low of me to attack at such a personal level.  For that I apologize.

But it does do jackstuff.  It is a place for rape victims to recover and be among others who have recovered. 
HOW is it helping? do they share stories, thus preventing rape in the future for womankind? derp lol

Once a-loving-gain, it is not only WOMEN.  Men have been raped also!  So this can't possibly be white knight or feminist situation! 
well that 1% i forgot about . even though this topic is about a WOMAN's march. yes it was intended to be about woman victims.

The walk isn't about the issue of preventing rape it is about helping the people who come after the action of rape. 
that helps how? awareness dosnt change outcomes of future crimes. sorry to tell you steps have to be take by future possible victims to prevent it the woman marching arent really trying to educate, just shout slogans and feel angry

It probably doesn't start or end with this walk.  Many rape victims who are in this walk probably already attend group sessions or want to.  So yes, I would assume that they share stories. 

It is a rape victim's march that happens to be mostly women. 

Awareness does change future crimes...  It has been used in highschools, colleges, and communities for a long time to actual success. 

These people are walking so that they can show the world that they can rise up from the traumatic event of rape and be a normal person again.  Recovery and prevention are two different things. And this walk represents recovery.