Author Topic: City RPGs - all the problems, your solutions  (Read 2516 times)

Many of you reading this have probably played on atleast one city RPG in your lifetime an have either regretted it, or you liked it, or maybe you hosted it. Whatever it was, odds are it was powered by iban's City RPG.

Many people believe that this is a poorly made mod, namely because when it comes to violence, things get a little troubling. Builders and civilians get killed, people feel unsafe, etc. and this is only one of many flaws people see.

Some of you may know me as the co-host to Psp's city RPG. Lately, we've been trying to change things, everything, coded and built. I have been working with psp to add new or modify old content to iban's mod, but there is only so much I can do as a single person.

So, what would you guys like to see added? A way to balance crime and justice? Loans? You name it.

The problem with CityRPG is that it's CityRPG. Removing CityRPG from CityRPG will make it better.

The problem with CityRPG is that it's CityRPG. Removing CityRPG from CityRPG will make it better.
For those who don't understand;
The game with all it's scripts and limitations are the problem, if people built the game upon their own role playing aspect it would be way better.
at least that's what it seems should be right.

Since when can you modify or write Torquescript fluently?

As I remember last you knew absolutely nothing about it, as well as PSP only being able to make tiny edits to already written code.

OT:
If you want a good mod, stop basing it off of old, crappy ones.  Write one yourself.

OT:
If you want a good mod, stop basing it off of old, crappy ones.  Write one yourself.
Yep

Completely rewrite the entire mod in C++ with no TS what so ever except for GUIs and the client

May I suggest:

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=200333.120

forget mainstream, I'm doin it up differently.

Have you gotten your friend to look into making that event I need?

I think CityRPGs with Iban's mod are fine as long as they have a decent map. (Unlike PSP's, Tiny's, Vigilance's and Ty's)

EDIT: Tiny's map OK
« Last Edit: November 22, 2012, 08:38:51 PM by ravencroft »

May I suggest:

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=200333.120

forget mainstream, I'm doin it up differently.

Have you gotten your friend to look into making that event I need?

lol

Many of you reading this have probably played on atleast one city RPG in your lifetime an have either regretted it, or you liked it, or maybe you hosted it. Whatever it was, odds are it was powered by iban's City RPG.


This is the reason JazZ and I started working on a new mod.

Many people believe that this is a poorly made mod, namely because when it comes to violence, things get a little troubling. Builders and civilians get killed, people feel unsafe, etc. and this is only one of many flaws people see.

This is awful easy to deal with, but not so easily just loving around with Iban's old cheese. I wouldn't edit that to this point. You and I are both friends and of all people I never expected you to want to go this far, and even if you did, not with Psp.

So, what would you guys like to see added? A way to balance crime and justice? Loans? You name it.

I hope you're not leaning on Psp to do your coding. Everyone that has been around long enough to, is well tired of Iban's CityRPG. The reason it was so big is because it was way better than the CityRP poop mod Jookia released. I honestly never expected it to live this long. That in some ways may be a good thing, but the downsides well equalize and overthrow that.

Completely rewrite the entire mod in C++ with no TS what so ever except for GUIs and the client

also somewhat lol'd, I do admit it's not a terrible idea, though.

As I remember last you knew absolutely nothing about it, as well as PSP only being able to make tiny edits to already written code.

this.

teal deer,

brush up on Torque with the torque appendix, Iban's tutorials, and there are a few more out there.

I have no skill nor talent in coding, nor interest. My father is a programmer, he tried video game programming and hated it. He showed me different engines and it all seemed too confusing for me at the time, and I still think that.

I don't rely on psp, nor his coding. I enjoy the game as I see fit me at the time. I admitted to the fact that psp is no god of coding, and last I checked neither are you or yola, dony. From a friendly perspective, you are both talented individuals that with time, could surpass Diggy, Wentworth, Pitfall, Bushido, you name it. Just not now.

I work with psp because through all the stupidity I manage to find, there are still very intelligent people, very talented builders, and it's all around a fairly easy-to-enjoy environment, and with recent physical alterations im applying to the server it will have even more appeal to it. In fact, that's another reason I like his server so much; people (majority of the time) like the fact that I am there and enjoy my work.

Altogether, Dony, your the only other GOOD city host I'm aware of, and even as a friend, odds are I will not be working with you on the server, namely for several reasons; it's a revival. Anyone who played before, myself included, will get bored faster than before. I respect, but despise yola, and you two can hardly stand each other as is, so I'm avoiding that slippery slope as is possible. Lastly, as an admin; not much I can apply. I could only moderate, which is not something I strongly enjoy. I focus on server improval. I see the bad and try and turn it to good, often with fairly good success. However, if I'm not an admin (which would probably be the case anyways), what is there to do that I can't do on any other server...?

I look forward to your mod Dony, but in the scheme of this all, it won't last very long, and most private city mods are just a rough memory for most. Iban's mod is hated for the corruption and ease of abuse... But it's one of the most well known RPG cores anyone has heard of. How many people, let's say, have diggy's mod, or wrntworth's (I'm not certain that was a private mod actually), or any of the several that Pitfall made.

Psp may not make anything impressive for mod, but the server itself is well established, and it's large, with dedicated admins. Few, select, but dedicated no less.

Dony. For the time that you have known me, when have I not been working. Sitting still. Not eventing, building or planning SOMETHING. Even in my out-of-game life I do a lot of hobby type activities and planning. I enjoy it. It keeps my mind occupied. The problems you and psp have should not affect my desire to improve upon an already well established server... In fact, you have the same problem almost; yola. A key player. He's coding quite a big part(s) for you. But his ethic... And his reliability. I dont mean to insult or throw things around (though yola and I could probably argue about that for the next 20 pages and we would still be no better off)... But he's going to be a daddy soon. If all goes well, in about... What, 5 months now? He won't be online a whole lot, if EVER. and that time imbetween, he will be very busy I would imagine, even if his significant other has moved in with other family to avoid bullying, he still has much to prepare for.

I had once stated on another thread somewhere- just kidding, found it;
Cities will never be perfect, only less stuffty than the aforementioned stuffty city RPG. Any city RPG server hosted ever has had SOMETHING wrong with it.
I hold this true, and I would bet 1 million dollars that it will hold true for as long as people host city RPGs.


... I typed too much. :I

How are those fingers, AdinX?

Callused, lol. I typed that all up on my iPhone in the dark of the condo I'm staying in
All my past gfs say I have fat fingers ;x I play guitar and do a lot of hands work so I have my reasons though ;)

Now you see, how do you plan on making a mod if you cannot code?

And you have no idea what my level of coding is, sure I'm not a master of Torquescript, far from it.  That doesn't mean I'm a dumbass.

Me and dion don't despise each other, I put him on a rather friendly term.  And my work ethic isn't bad at all, I just don't have the time it requires to be a part of these large projects anymore.  Don't bring my personal life into this, as you don't even know it, she's still 7 months away.


We arent looking at a new mod, we're just looking at customizing iban's. There's no need to make a whole new mod that will only last a month tops.

I also never called you a dumbass or anything similar. I'm simply basing my understanding of your coding abilities off of my interactions and time spent with you.

You and Dony had a fairly large argument not but a week or two ago where Don said he didn't want your work. Since then I know you two have gotten over that, but from my experience with you, you tend to be very opinionated and start arguments if something doesn't entirely suit you. I never insulted your personal life either, I brought it up because you, I and everyone who has seen your thread knows its true; your not gonna be around because your gonna be a father. I never, in this thread, said you were wrong or a horrible person for it, just that you will be occupied much more than you are now.

AdinX: Sir Dooble Jr.

I don't believe I know who that is, but if your accusing me of being an alt, wrong name, My last Acc was Koonta.