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What the forget?

I live in the south and that /doesn't/ happen.
I know in Mississippi they JUST stopped. they might still have it in some schools.

Well, it's reality. If you want to deal with discrimination, murder, and profiling (may go with discrimination in this instance), then push for the title marriage. Otherwise, push for another type of license. Also, it would be much more beneficial for gays to have a custom system instead of one based off of hetero relationships. Like, one person could be declared as mother status, and one of father status. So if they adopt, and divorce, custody doesn't turn into a divide by 0 error.
Again. If gays had the title or marriage, hell would break lose. Not my doing, nor choosing, just reality. The system would be heavily flawed anyway seeing that there would really be no distinction between either party (husband and husband)
I think you're thinking about this too bureaucratically. Also there is no guarantee that people will be murdered if the fight for gay marriage continues. Think about it this way. Interracial couples want to get married. The state offers them a separate license instead of being officially "married". Does this not sound tacky? Why should they have to settle for getting a different marriage from everyone else? To me, it feels illegitimate. It's not an attempt to forward social progress, but rather to appease the bigoted masses. Had we applied the same logic to interracial marriage decades ago it would not have lasted long. Also I don't understand this "mother status father status" stuff. I thought we were past traditional gender profiling already. Adoption/Divorce should already have nothing to do with gender, rather the character of each person in the relationship. Also, we should not limit their rights to marry because there are a few kinks to work out with the system once husband-husband relationships become a thing.
same benefits just a different title. (isn't that what's a civil union is?)
http://lesbianlife.about.com/cs/wedding/a/unionvmarriage.htm
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Portability:
Marriages are respected state to state for all purposes, but questions remain about how civil unions will be treated in other states since very few states have civil unions.
Ending a Civil Union:
If you are married, you can get divorced in any state in which you are a resident. But if states continue to disrespect civil unions, there is no way to end the relationship other than by establishing residency in a state that respects the civil union.
Federal Benefits:
According to a 1997 GAO report, civil marriage brings with it at least 1,138 legal protections and responsibilities from the federal government, including the right to take leave from work to care for a
family member, the right to sponsor a spouse for immigration purposes, and Social Security survivor benefits that can make a difference between old age in poverty and old age in security. Civil unions bring none of these critical legal protections.
Taxes & Public Benefits for the Family:
Because the federal government does not respect civil unions, a couple with a civil union will be in a kind of limbo with regard to governmental functions performed by both state and federal governments, such as taxation, pension protections, provision of insurance for families, and means-tested programs like Medicaid. Even when states try to provide legal protections, they may be foreclosed from doing so in joint federal/state programs.
Filling out forms:
Every day, we fill out forms that ask us whether we are married or single. People joined in a civil union don’t fit into either category. People with civil unions should be able to identify themselves as a single family unit, but misrepresenting oneself on official documents can be considered fraud and carries potential serious criminal penalties.
Separate & Unequal -- Second-Class Status:
Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated marriages and civil unions, the fact that a civil union remains a separate status just for gay people represents real and powerful inequality. We’ve been down this road before in this country and should not kid ourselves that a separate institution just for gay people is a just solution here either. Our constitution requires legal equality for all. Including gay and lesbian couples within existing marriage laws is the fairest and simplest thing to do.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 09:53:47 PM by ultimamax »


gey people suck richard  :cookieMonster:


i don't consider being black or w/e like being gay. i think its a choice whether or not they are gay

i don't consider being black or w/e like being gay. i think its a choice whether or not they are gay
Brace yourself.


i don't consider being black or w/e like being gay. i think its a choice whether or not they are gay

Are you sure? I'm trying really hard to be gay right now!

Are you sure? I'm trying really hard to be gay right now!
I'm trying really hard to be straight.

I wish I were straight.

:c

Are you sure? I'm trying really hard to be gay right now!
okay?

I'm trying really hard to be straight.

I wish I were straight.

:c

Every time I try to be straight I fail :c

i don't consider being black or w/e like being gay. i think its a choice whether or not they are gay
I want you to imagine a richard sliding in your mouth. Now I want you to imagine you're enjoying that richard.

I want you to imagine a richard sliding in your mouth. Now I want you to imagine you're enjoying that richard.
wtf are you talking about?

i think its a choice whether or not they are gay
And guess what? You're wrong.