Author Topic: Opinion about gun control?  (Read 20665 times)

We need to take the hint.
Population of Switzerland: 7,655,628 population of Canada: 34,482,779 population of Argentina:40,764,561  population of the United States: 311,591,917
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 11:23:02 PM by fred da kiko »

Actually, they seem to mostly pander to the people for what to do. Obama's main benefactor was the University of California (although Romney's was Goldman Sachs) and a lot of personal donations. I also don't see the government leaning towards this Tea Party wet dream of a totalitarian dictatorship they need to violently revolt against.

The United States is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It's impossible to become this dictatorship your speak of when there are hundreds of government officials who are cycled in and out of being just normal citizens. Few are supported by The Corporations, and many don't support motives by the ultra-rich to keep getting richer while the poor suffer. That party is currently losing pretty badly.

The notion that citizens require weaponry is patriotism that is not needed at this time. We are no longer under a dictatorship with no say in the government. We have every say in decisions for we are the government. Arming citizens only results in more harm then good, and is unnecessary. We need to take the hint.

I strongly disagree

Both parties own and regulate the debates that they engage in, and both parties take campaign donations from big business. Both parties have stripped away your rights with legislation such as the Patriot Act, NDAA, and a myriad of internet censorship bills and international treaties.

Your government does not represent you but the corporate powers that now have way too much political influence.

what about the national guards? they're state militias. but they also serve the federal government, if needed (like if martial law is effective). what do they do if, idk, a state secedes from the US or something that would call for a similar decision?

the governor and sheriffs would lead the militias lol
anyone can just join up and grab arms. like was intended.

anyone in the military is not really welcome, they will be treated as enemy since they took oaths to the commander and chief.

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All governments are made up of people. I just find the concept of giving one man more power than the next, by vote or any other method, is unnatural and immoral.

I don't want my money sequestered for causes I don't believe in under the guise of "tax." I don't want men I do not know to make decisions for me, my family, and all of my friends as if they know what is best for each one of us. I don't want to be forced to give part of my work to parasites who live off of the money of others because they cannot earn their keep. I want to control my life and my assets independently of a governmental entity.

I believe the idea of "Man A is more powerful than Man B because Man D and Man C said he should be" is immoral and goes against the very nature of human beings. We want to self-govern, it's basic instinct and left to his liberties, man would be fine.

Population of Switzerland: 7,655,628 population of Canada: 34,482,779 population of Argentina:40,764,561  population of the United States: 311,591,917
What does population have to do with a graph that doesn't involve population?

All governments are made up of people. I just find the concept of giving one man more power than the next, by vote or any other method, is unnatural and immoral.

I don't want my money sequestered for causes I don't believe in under the guise of "tax." I don't want men I do not know to make decisions for me, my family, and all of my friends as if they know what is best for each one of us. I don't want to be forced to give part of my work to parasites who live off of the money of others because they cannot earn their keep. I want to control my life and my assets independently of a governmental entity.

I believe the idea of "Man A is more powerful than Man B because Man D and Man C said he should be" is immoral and goes against the very nature of human beings. We want to self-govern, it's basic instinct and left to his liberties, man would be fine.
Man B can leave whenever he wants.

What does population have to do with a graph that doesn't involve population?

its called a ratio.

Man B can leave whenever he wants.
Where is Man B to go? Is he simply to abandon his livelihood and endlessly drift like Odysseus, never finding a suitable place to settle down, instead having to return home to the same problems?

the governor and sheriffs would lead the militias lol
anyone can just join up and grab arms. like was intended.
but what about a national guard

its called a ratio.
I don't understand why he listed populations when the graph is comprised of percentages, not total populations.

Where is Man B to go? Is he simply to abandon his livelihood and endlessly drift like Odysseus, never finding a suitable place to settle down, instead having to return home to the same problems?
Since you are so great at earning your keep, why don't you live somewhere free of government? Like deep in the rainforest or in Antarctica. If you can survive urban life I'm sure you will be equally adept at living in the wild.
I don't understand why he listed populations when the graph is comprised of percentages, not total populations.
Different populations lead to different situations. There will be much less crime in a city where everyone knows each other than in a city like NYC

but what about a national guard

yeah they are state. though when the federal gov asks for them to be used, states just send em. they dont have to though.

Where is Man B to go? Is he simply to abandon his livelihood and endlessly drift like Odysseus, never finding a suitable place to settle down, instead having to return home to the same problems?
Having everybody completely equal in a government would never work under any circumstances. Man B can deal with it and hope that he gets voted to a better position next term.

Your argument is invalid as the government isn't a tyrant yet. Having a rebellion at this point would be like cumming while making out.

uh

where were you when the government was torturing citizens who had not stood trial or been charged with any crimes?

oh and when they gave orders to kill innocent civilians in the middle east

and when they put thousands of innocent people in work camps for being of japanese descent in the 40's
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Having everybody completely equal in a government would never work under any circumstances. Man B can deal with it and hope that he gets voted to a better position next term.
I never stated we would have equal government, I stated that I believe humanity is better self governed than governed by an entity which will never truly know his needs.

Since you are so great at earning your keep, why don't you live somewhere free of government? Like deep in the rainforest or in Antarctica. If you can survive urban life I'm sure you will be equally adept at living in the wild.
That's a ridiculous statement to make. Humans are social creatures and require interaction with others. I'm saying humans should not be able to rob each other of property or liberties under the guise of governing them, and no human should ever hold more power than the next by a popular vote. Power comes from work.
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