Connecticut shooting - Warfare Weaponry

[Bisjac]

Purchasing weapons should be ridiculously expensive and require a state-issued license to wield weapons unless you're in the military.

that is already the case lol.


and people cant get automatic guns. the guns used in all of these shootings were not automatic.
a handgun can hold nearly as many bullets, and can still shoot just as fast as these semi-auto rifles.

the guns arent the issue

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[rockslide26]

Who even uses assault rifles or even heavy weapons?
You definitely don't need them for hunting.

Your idea of practical shall not define the rights of the people. People should have the right to their weapons just as any sovereign military does. "But we don't use these for hunting," you say. We still have the right to own weapons, but not the right to use them in aggression towards our neighbors.

[Nobot]

Your idea of practical shall not define the rights of the people. People should have the right to their weapons just as any sovereign military does. "But we don't use these for hunting," you say. We still have the right to own weapons, but not the right to use them in aggression towards our neighbors.

this wasn't really MY idea of how I want things

I sorta agree with it but they are apparently trying to make heavy weaponry illegal or you need certain rights to get them.

Where I am at you can just walk in and purchase an assault rifle and I find that pretty scary. Anybody could go and just do a mass killing easily.

[Mega-Bear]

I don't think people should be allowed to have automatic assault rifles or anything of the like, but pistols, SMGs, hunting rifles, etc. are all fine by me. Illegalizing less-dangerous weaponry is silly, and I'm ashamed of some people in my political party who think guns should be outlawed.

[Harm94]

Ok so apparently I've been doing done research and people are saying they want to get rid of guns.
This isn't exactly true. They want to get rid of assault rifles and warfare guns. I would understand having a 6 - 12 clip pistol handgun for safety but why on Earth should anybody be allowed to buy a 30 clip assault rifle for 'safety' reasons? That is what is happening. Criminals are able to buy those 30 round clip assault rifles where they can just easily take down 20 people and then slip another 30 in there and they are ready to go. I agree that assault rifles or heavy rifles should be illegal because they are only for war.

What is you guys opinions on this?

Your intentions are good, but let me say a few things. Because there seem to be a few things you don't know about.

The AR15 is no where close to a military rifle. Some can the 5.56mm(which is a military catridge) others fire the underpowered .223mm.  Also that thing that holds the ammo in a nice box shape that you call a clip is called a magazine. A clip is a thin peice of metal that used as a pez dispenser to load the magazine. Also the state of Conneticut had heavy gun laws? Clearly those laws failed to stop this tragedy. So what makes you think more laws will do any better? Also any gun nut knows that the AR15 is very prone to jamming as well as any weapon that is fired too fast. The Colorado shooter's AR15 jammed and pulled out a pistol where he could squeeze off more shots.

Now tell since the Colomubine massacre, how many of these mass killers are some gun nut who collects guns, and how many are either a student going to a fancy college or ex-military?

So Nobot, did you know there are parents out there blaming violent video games for this? So what if go around and thing all video games aren't shooters and try to outlaw videogames? Do you think a parent who knows zero about video games knows the difference between Pong and Call of Duty? Same like the anti gun crowd who thinks every gun is an AK47 or AR15 and that every gun such as such as shotgun is a weapon of mass destruction or machine gun. Ignorancy in numbers is a dangerous thing, so I recommend that you learn more about the things you are against before you speak out about them which could be handy for future arguements.

I understand the antigun crowd wants to live in a safer world where they think that no guns will bring them safety, but the US is very different from the rest of the world and it's impossible to have one solution that can work everywhere. The gun nuts are just defending what they love to do as would a game defend video games, or a chef would defend meat because some vegetarians/vegans don't like it.

[rockslide26]

this wasn't really MY idea of how I want things

I sorta agree with it but they are apparently trying to make heavy weaponry illegal or you need certain rights to get them.

Where I am at you can just walk in and purchase an assault rifle and I find that pretty scary. Anybody could go and just do a mass killing easily.

The second amendment is beautiful because you aren't forced to exercise it, you aren't mandated to have a gun. Guns are protection from many things, including but not limited to, government, foreign enemies, and assailants

[Cybertails1998]

There was also a New York epidemic of school shootings, it apparently was so forgeted it got on Russian news.

[Kevdude]

There was also a New York epidemic of school shootings, it apparently was so forgeted it got on Russian news.

What the forget are you talking about? Living under NY, I've heard nothing of this.
Looked it up, nothing

[Harm94]

RT is the Russia version of Fox news. It all bullstuff, but I do like to see the stories of Putin riding motorcycles with a Russian deathmetal band play for him while he shows off his wrestling moves.

[TeslaCoil]

sniper rifles shouldn't be allowed.

You know what a hunting rifle is? Yeah, it's a sniper rifle. For Hunting.

[Cybertails1998]

What the forget are you talking about? Living under NY, I've heard nothing of this.
Looked it up, nothing

the news said "new york" iirc, so i guess they mixed up the two places :T

[auzman466]

Anyone who says they have the right to bear arms and uses the second amendment to back them up is dumb. The second amendment was written during a time when guns took over a minute to reload. It shouldn't be a valid excuse in any form.

[Kevdude]

Anyone who says they have the right to bear arms and uses the second amendment to back them up is dumb. The second amendment was written during a time when guns took over a minute to reload. It shouldn't be a valid excuse in any form.

The rest of the constitution must be invalid too because it's old

[Kalphiter]

Your idea of practical shall not define the rights of the people. People should have the right to their weapons just as any sovereign military does. "But we don't use these for hunting," you say. We still have the right to own weapons, but not the right to use them in aggression towards our neighbors.

It's not a right, it's a loving privilege.

[Harm94]

It's not a right, it's a loving privilege.

Privilege you say? Tell that that the people who text on their phones while driving is a right.