Author Topic: Religion (uh-oh)  (Read 3374 times)

Religion, to me, is merely a tool that our primitive, stupid ancestors to explain the things that science can definitively explain today. As far as we as a species have advanced, it puzzles me just why it retains such a strong foothold in modern society; one would assume it would be very obsolete in a world of such knowledge.
And I know some people practice religion for things like fulfillment, morality, etc. but I feel as though one can obtain these same things with science. What makes it so much more fulfilling to believe that the world was created by a god than to believe that it was created by the Big Bang?
Morality is a given no matter your religion. Few things upset me more than when people say that because I don't follow a deity, I have no moral code. I'm not going to up and kill a man just because God didn't tell me not to. The establishment of societal morals may have been assisted by religion, but after so many centuries of living with them they are so deep-seeded in our culture that, no matter one's religion, one has to follow them. I grew up with primarily atheist parents and I was taught much the same ethical code that would have been taught to the child of the most religious parents on the planet. Furthermore, history has shown that when God said "thou shalt not kill" he meant anybody who isn't anything other than Christian. There have been atheist murderers, without doubt, but throughout history Christians have consistently been genocidal dictators and maniacs, and they all claimed that they act in the name of God. What kind of good, loving deity asks you to kill in his name?
It also must be said that, as perhaps a risky generalization, atheists are generally less hateful, prejudiced, etc. than Christians.
I speak, of course, only of the die-hard zealots who follow the teachings of the Bible to the letter and unthinkingly act out everything the Bible tells them to do regardless of established morals. Christians don't bother me if they don't try to shove religion down my throat or wipe all the non-Christians off the world.

In conclusion, I am an atheist because I take comfort in that which can be scientifically proven, over that which was written in a book thousands of years ago. I do not accept many of the rash, evil doctrines put forth in that same book; note that I do not say that all the doctrines in this book are so.

Why can't people stop bitching and get along regardless of our religion? The fact that these different religions or groups or whatever the forget you want to call yourself are still fighting about what is true shows that we have not changed from when our species first existed instead of bitching about what is true we should all work together to find the truth.

Why can't people stop bitching and get along regardless of our religion? The fact that these different religions or groups or whatever the forget you want to call yourself are still fighting about what is true shows that we have not changed from when our species first existed instead of bitching about what is true we should all work together to find the truth.
There are simply no easy solutions. There never will be. People are stubborn and always will be, it's just a fact of life. People are free to believe what they want to believe; science, by that logic, can be said to be just another religion. Whether or not they have the truth is completely arbitrary.

There are simply no easy solutions. There never will be. People are stubborn and always will be, it's just a fact of life. People are free to believe what they want to believe; science, by that logic, can be said to be just another religion. Whether or not they have the truth is completely arbitrary.

I agree with you

9 like i said above, the bible is very old and is not meant to be taken literally at times.
So when are you supposed to take it metaphorically?

So when are you supposed to take it metaphorically?
When changing morals don't match the "morality" of back then, of course!

It's this kind of stuff that gets me pissed off, mostly.

They just get really butthurt and start throwing out randumb stuff like "Why do you believe Mark Twain or Abraham Lincoln?"

I once went to a youth group in Clintonville, OH. They knew I was an athiest and I sat there listening the whole time.

Note: They were catholic.

I sat there and listened, and I got really intrigued. Not because of the story of how everything happened, of how the earth was created, but their philosophy on how you should live your life. I'm talking about how you have to help others to be happy, and that to accept yourself you have to accept others beforehand.

I was eventually asked "You think this is all nonsense, don't you." By one of the teachers.

I responded with "I don't think all of your beliefs are nonsense. I don't necessarily agree with the Adam and Eve and the apple and that stuff, but I agree with how you have to love others to love yourself, and how hatred is the only way to truly be a bad person."

They eventually told everyone else that if I was to speak, it would be profound.

I felt acceptance in that environment, and I think christians shouldn't be stereotyped.

No one should be stereotyped, really. But that day I realized that you don't have to believe in that stuff to be in that religion, you just got to have a need for the feel of community.

No one should be stereotyped, really. But that day I realized that you don't have to believe in that stuff to be in that religion, you just got to have a need for the feel of community.
Nah, that's BS.

To be a Christian you have to believe in God.

to be a christian you have to sit and put your arms together before/during/after every event and meal and talk to nobody

yeah okay

Christianity - the only faith where equal mercy and justice can exist (which contradict each other and doesn't make any sense however).

the bible was "written" over the course of 1500 years by about 400 different people.
but was assembled about 330ad.

only idiots think it was written and assembled all at once, and right after jesus' death.
all historical proof suggests against it. even chrsitians should all agree, but since christians don't read world history, much less their OWN history, they wouldn't know.

Nah, that's BS.

To be a Christian you have to believe in God.

well all 3 major religions have the same god.

to be christians you have to believe that jesus was the son of god and has come, left, and will return.
and is the sole way to get into this version of heaven.

basically the jesus aspect, because otherwise just believing in god would make you a jew lol

I'm not religious, however I don't like to go around and try to make others question there belief. If people want to believe because it comforts them or whatever I'm all for it. People need to do whatever makes them happy, I'm personally comforted by the idea of a lack of afterlife, I want to die when I die. I'd rather not die and then go to some fiery abyss dimension just because I smoke weed and curse.

That said, I've always wanted to be friends with a priest or rabbi or some other religious leader who is willing to have actual debates about the subject. Without them trying to convert me or me trying to convert them.

My religious stance at the moment is that I don't believe in an afterlife, but I do believe there could be a creator of the universe type of figure. I don't wholeheartedly believe that there is one, just that there could be one.

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If people didn't know about religion in the first place they wouldn't need to be comforted, because they wouldn't feel like there was anything missing about themselves.

trust me
this is BLF
no one will call you a sinner
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