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Author Topic: [MEGATHREAD] Personal Computer - Updated builds thanks to Logical Increments  (Read 1695670 times)

A few minor things wrong with this, pretty good build overall

- There's no reason why you shouldn't buy the K-version of a cpu you spend more than $200 on, $10 more for possibly 30% increase in cpu perf
- You stubbornly keep recommending nvidia cards for budget builds, and cut costs in other areas like cases. $30 not spent on an identically performing gpu could go a long way in terms of a nicer case
More serious issues here

- What performance benefits do you think there will be adding 2gb of vram at 1080p?
- There's no need for buying 16gb of ram, the only reason you would get more than 8gb is if you know for a fact you use up 8gb on a daily basis
I take most issue with this

- Same problem as before with not getting the k-series cpu
- If you're citing that spending $100 more on this cpu is justified for general performance increases, you're wrong. The major differences between the i5-4690K and the i7-4790K is that the i7 comes with hyperthreading enabled, a mb or two of extra L3 cache, and a higher stock speed. Getting the unlocked version of either chip negates the stock speed advantage. You won't notice any speed difference without 1MB of L3 cache. And since general performance applications (such as navigating the OS and opening webpages) are all singlethreaded, there will be absolutely no difference, and you will have spent a tenth of your budget on something that doesn't affect your percieved experience at all. The i7 is for heavily threaded desktop apps, such as video encoding.
- The K-version slipped my mind. I've edited the original build.
- This isn't a budget build though. If their budget was $600 or less I'd have no problem using AMD parts. The case, despite the low pricetag, fits all the requirements. The case has 5/5 Eggs, over 2,400 reviews, fits the motherboard, comes with fans included, comes from a well known manufacturer, and has plenty of space for drives.

As for the rest, I guess they don't need to up their budget.

- The K-version slipped my mind. I've edited the original build.
- This isn't a budget build though. If their budget was $600 or less I'd have no problem using AMD parts. The case, despite the low pricetag, fits all the requirements. The case has 5/5 Eggs, over 2,400 reviews, fits the motherboard, comes with fans included, comes from a well known manufacturer, and has plenty of space for drives.

As for the rest, I guess they don't need to up their budget.
Truth of the matter is, every build is a budget build unless it doesn't have a budget. Have you ever built with a $50 rosewill case? I have. It wasn't terrible, but cable management was non-existent and the motherboard standoffs tore through the motherboard tray when mounting the mobo. I don't even have to click on the link to know that all of the positive reviews say "good for the money". It probably is. But with not a lot more, you could get a case that is just plain "good"
Such as this one

Also, (didn't see this before), might be a good idea to switch the z87 motherboard out for the z97 one. The upgrade is worth it for better bios support and possibly adding m2 storage options in the future, otherwise it's the same

yo guys, got 180 dollars from my birthday. decided to invest it in computer parts. what should i get? specs:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/9/2014, 21:36:36
       Machine name: JOHN-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: eMachines
       System Model: EL1852G
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E6700  @ 3.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 3072MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3038MB RAM
          Page File: 2602MB used, 3470MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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          Card name: Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset
       Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
          Chip type: Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
           DAC type: Internal
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E32&SUBSYS_03901025&REV_03
     Display Memory: 1326 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
      Shared Memory: 1262 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: Acer E202HL
         Monitor Id: ACR02A4
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (59.978Hz)
        Output Type: HD15

my case is also slimline, so i probably need an upgrade for that.

yo guys, got 180 dollars from my birthday. decided to invest it in computer parts. what should i get? specs:
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my case is also slimline, so i probably need an upgrade for that.
Invest in a starter level GPU. Pardon if there is a GPU on there, couldn't see it.

Invest in a starter level GPU. Pardon if there is a GPU on there, couldn't see it.

no gpu, just intergrated.


Could I get some opinions?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LegoPepper/saved/ZxjWGX
wtf why do you need 4 fans
also you dont need a cpu cooler, heres a improved build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Jbwcgs
replaced the 1tb with a 2tb also.

You could take the $80 you just saved on fans and put it into an i5-4690k, much better gaming performance for the price and much better suited to be with the 280X. Might as well keep the cpu cooler if you plan on overclocking

I updated it, is there any way I can save money?

I updated it, is there any way I can save money?
There are cheaper motherboards that are just as good. You should try to find one that's Z97 so you don't have to worry about out of date bios. here's the one I always recommend because of how baller it looks. You also don't need a 750W psu, maybe 550W if you want some headroom. You could save maybe $20 there. Aside from that, I wouldn't worry too much about cutting costs, you have a pretty balanced build.

Alright I updated but kept the psu just in case I want to do crossfire later on. Thanks for all the help!

How come "Upgradeability in the future" is listed as a pro for custom built computers? You can purchase new components and install them into pre-built ones, too. For example, I got a pre-build computer that came with an Nvidia GT 625, but I'm gonna replace it with an Nvidia GTX 760.

So I was playing TF2 and it crashed. I was greeted with the usual bad overclock/dying GPU artifacts. That wasn't too surprising since my laptop's power supply is too weak and I have to underclock the GPU. I restarted it and ever since my audio keeps randomly makes clicking noises.
Is something dying? I don't see a degrade in performance and I don't think it got too hot.

How come "Upgradeability in the future" is listed as a pro for custom built computers? You can purchase new components and install them into pre-built ones, too. For example, I got a pre-build computer that came with an Nvidia GT 625, but I'm gonna replace it with an Nvidia GTX 760.
The biggest difficult in prebuilts for upgrades is the power supply. A lot of OEMs put the bare minimum wattage rating in for the parts you bought, with minimum power cables. I'm sure there's a system builder out there who would let you choose from a list of PSUs, but you'll pay dearly for it. There are probably a few companies on the opposite end of the spectrum that would just solder ram to your motherboard

Since there's more activity on the thread and I haven't bought the parts yet, how's this look to everyone:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Lt77GX