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Imagine being born into the world just to be used as spare parts for someone else.
Clones don't have feelings.


^ hurtful
now now you don't even know what that means you don't have feelings remember hush now

Once they find that little bit of blood in a mosquito trapped inside
the tree sap of a super old tree they'll be able to clone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjrGK2FS7Q&list=UUh3z0LnWXywk6tETB_AhGKg&index=3
« Last Edit: January 30, 2013, 05:35:51 AM by Sentry »


Being cloned for spare parts and/or cannon fodder wouldn't be such a great reason to live.

I'ma clone myself and make AN ARMY OF MASTER BLASTERS!

I'ma clone myself and make AN ARMY OF MASTER BLASTERS!
I read this wrong and had many sides broken.


Why would you clone an entire human being for a single organ?
How wasteful is that?
It's much easier to clone an organ and grow it on an animal and then transplant it into you. This is the line of research that organ-transplantation via cloning is already taking.

If it were things like a kidney for a child or whatnot, you're better off just having a child to donate one to your elder child. It's not 100% guaranteed that the new baby will be compatible in blood type (depending on the parents blood types), but it's a lot cheaper than spending millions on cloning.


The idea of cloning an entire living human has no real purpose besides curiosity.
And if you make a sentient human being via cloning, then you obviously raise large ethical questions and implications.
It's not worth the hassle to clone an entire person.
It's definitely too wasteful a way to provide organs, so you'd only be cloning people for the sake of cloning people.

Why would you clone an entire human being for a single organ?
How wasteful is that?
It's much easier to clone an organ and grow it on an animal and then transplant it into you. This is the line of research that organ-transplantation via cloning is already taking.

If it were things like a kidney for a child or whatnot, you're better off just having a child to donate one to your elder child. It's not 100% guaranteed that the new baby will be compatible in blood type (depending on the parents blood types), but it's a lot cheaper than spending millions on cloning.


The idea of cloning an entire living human has no real purpose besides curiosity.
And if you make a sentient human being via cloning, then you obviously raise large ethical questions and implications.
It's not worth the hassle to clone an entire person.
It's definitely too wasteful a way to provide organs, so you'd only be cloning people for the sake of cloning people.
92% agree, except for the part about having a child just for their organs. Unless you were just giving an example...?

92% agree, except for the part about having a child just for their organs. Unless you were just giving an example...?
It's a semi-common event.

Sometimes if a young child has a life-threatening illness that effects organs like the kidney or liver, then finding a transplant can be difficult, due to the lack of donated organs of children, and difficulties that may arise due to bloody-types.

As a result, there have been some cases, where families have had an additional child in the hope that it will provide a compatible organ. Organs like the kidneys or parts of the liver can be safely removed from the new child, without affecting it's health, and can be given to the older child to save its life.
It doesn't mean that the new child is disposed of or not cared for, since it just becomes a normal child as part of a family.
It's not exceedingly common, but it is an event that happens. And it is obviously a lot cheaper, and more natural, than cloning organs (or a person) to transplant into the sick child.



There's a slightly different method, which does have more ethical implications, where parents may decide to conceive a child in order to produce stem-cells which can be used in the treatment of the sick older child.
In this scenario the child is not born, and raises ethical questions based on the view of when does life begin.
Some would say that a life starts at conception and therefore taking stem cells will kill the baby, making it murder. But that's just one view. It's essentially part of the pro-life/pro-choice argument.

Well, i've read somewhere that there is a large amount of stem cells in umbilical cord tissue/blood when a child is born. Since children I born often (every 20-30 seconds or so), I would think donating this stuff would be a good alternative. And excuse me if i'm wrong, but we could use stem cells from animals, also.

Well, i've read somewhere that there is a large amount of stem cells in umbilical cord tissue/blood when a child is born. Since children I born often (every 20-30 seconds or so), I would think donating this stuff would be a good alternative. And excuse me if i'm wrong, but we could use stem cells from animals, also.
There's not quite as much in the umbilical cord and whatnot, but it is used too.
I think what should be researched into is the use of adult stem-cells, which are found in bone-marrow.
We don't know lots about them, but they could be much more useful and easy to get to and less ethically-questionable than using embryonic stem-cells.

And I'm not really sure on stem-cells from animals.
There is quite likely good chance that it would not be easily accepted by human donors.
There have been animal-to-human transplants before, but I don't think they're ever as successful as human-to-human ones.
But I don't know everything about stem-cells, so I couldn't possibly comment on all the options with them.
I do believe that they are quite miraculous and there should be research into their use in treating diseases like Alzheimer's and motor-neurone diseases.