Jasa's city RP, meatspin links are all in good fun and aren't bannable at all!

[Conservative]

I have been de-admined from Jasa'c city RP for banning users linking to researchographic, or the shock site "meatspin".

I had gotten on the server today, and had decided to overrule Jasa's way of administration after it went unpunished the first time.

I've posted massive posts regarding the administration abuse, and the starfishs that reside in the server and are free to roam about for reason of "the internet is full of starfishs", ~Jasa


research, Meatspin linking

The argument at hand, unfortunately, was so long and outstretched that I am unable to take a reasonable ammount of images to put my point across.

Jasa has dismissed shock sites, and researchographic sites as simple 'jokes', that don't deserve any actual punishment unless the user sends them a second time.

I had banned user "DOU", for sending a meatspin link to the public server with around 24 other players within.

My first instinct, was to permanently ban the user, based on what I had learned from administration in Pecon7's Boss Battles, this ban was soon revoked after a bunch of idiots called 'badmin', and 'too harsh'.

I left it alone and actually appologized to DOU, and went my seperate way for a couple hours.

Only till yesterday night, did I realize the true stupidity that lies beyond the situation, and I messaged Surburb about the issue, and Jasa over steam.

Surburb dismissed it as a 'joke', aswell as Jasa the next morning.

Since I had decided to overrule Jasa's faulty administration system, I had banned DOU for a day for posting researchographic links, and Day for unconditional hating.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22217440/eh.png

Shard the Owl had a problem with my ban regarding the meatspin link, and took it upon himself to start calling me a badmin, along with a few others, and took it to RTB.

DOU was soon unbanned by Jasa, and after demanding to know why he was unbanned, Jasa again told me "it was just a joke", which lead me to rebanning him for a day.

One of the users in the server, decided to take his chances at creating a fake research link that looked real.

"www.google.com/research", I assumed this was a search for research, and banned him for a day aswell.

I was then de-admined and at this point, full caps raging.

I cleared my bricks, said some last minute stuff to Jasa, and left the server.


A Cheating admin, and his friend friend.

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=219141.msg6322103#msg6322103

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=219141.msg6322257#msg6322257

Herecy was a six star criminal, and I was a lawyer.

Herecy wanted me to pay off his demerits, with cash he would provide me.

He lead me to the second floor of his high-rise building, closed off any entrances, and to my surprise, he had about 10 - 15 lumber trees.

Lumber trees are buyable for $1000 in the server by regular players, so I figured he just had a lot of cash.

I also did not know he was an admin at this time.

While I sat in the corner of the room, Herecy would mine lumber, and give it to me to exchange into cash, and paying his demerits off.

After bringing up the issue that I need to get to a lumber exchange monitor for the cash, he planted a lumber exchange monitor next to the trees and allowed me to exchange the lumber for cash.

I had still not known he was an admin, and assumed the monitor was paid for aswell.

After a while of him mining the lumber, I got bored and left the building; but not before he said "I'm probably just gonna keep the cash".

Only after I was an admin, did I realize he cheated, so I confronted him about it.

I had not been an admin for even a day before this happened, and I had already dealt with a problem between Kalphiter and PressMe aswell.

Everyone hated Kalphiter for how much he complained in the server, and I can see why; many of his complaints were simply to add, or fix a certain part of the mod that lets criminals get away with killing the bike you ride, but he also called on admin cheating, and I'm starting to think he was telling the truth.

The admin, believed he could do whatever he wanted, and ordered me not to piss him off.

His argument, was that he contributed to the server, and therefor, he is more valuable than the other players and could cheat at will.

Herecy broke rule 5.

Jasa himself, supported this argument, by saying Herecy helped with the terrain around the city, and that alone, is reason enough to give him more of a chance than anyone else who would attempt this.

My personal belief; cheating is cheating, doesen't matter if you're an regular player, admin, contributor or even the host, cheating makes you an starfish and danger to the server.

At some point, Herecy talked to Day about the situation, and Day began attacking me with everything he could.

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=219141.msg6322830#msg6322830

I am now unable to join the server due to Icanhasfire! and Day saying stuff about me, and getting away with it.

Day is angry at me for calling Herecy out on his cheating.

Icanhasfire! is angry at me for not unmuting him when he asked, and possibly mislead by the argument.

Bishop and MDMA

I really don't know how to rephrase this further, due to how largely it spun out of control, so I'll put a link to the beginning of the argument here.

http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=219141.msg6322318#msg6322318

TL;DR; http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=219141.msg6323634#msg6323634

Bishop and MDMA were pissed that I took action upon them hiding in their inaccessible basement with Demerits.

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[Operator¹]

wow that sucks

[Tømpson]

So basically I posted a joke link to meatspin and you blackmailed me for a day with the ban, when I told you that you needed to shut up about jasa's decision to not deadmin herecy you banned me for a day. Then when jasa unbanned me I came back and you started insulting jasa and acting like it was your server and your decision so you rebanned me and got deadmined. You the proceeded to ragequit after clearing your bricks.

[Conservative]

Jasa allows anyone to get away with anything they want.

And only after many MANY complaints have been put out on the user, does the user get a day ban.

Repeated offenses are required to do anything wrong in the server.

[Freek]

I think you're a great admin.

[Tømpson]

Jasa allows anyone to get away with anything they want.

And only after many MANY complaints have been put out on the user, does the user get a day ban.

Repeated offenses are required to do anything wrong in the server.

I'd like to see the many complaints about the meatspin link that aren't from you.
And no stuff repeated offenses are required, it's not like we are robbing banks are killing whores.

[Yola²]

I think you're a great admin.

[Operator¹]

I'd like to see the many complaints about the meatspin link that aren't from you.
And no stuff repeated offenses are required, it's not like we are robbing banks are killing whores.

You shouldn't be posting links to research websites in the first place.

[Tømpson]

You shouldn't be posting links to research websites in the first place.

Wasn't against the rules of the server. And jasa told him the same, so did suburb and about 5 other players. He is incapable of listening to other people.

[Conservative]

So basically I posted a joke link to meatspin and you blackmailed me for a day with the ban, when I told you that you needed to shut up about jasa's decision to not deadmin herecy you banned me for a day. Then when jasa unbanned me I came back and you started insulting jasa and acting like it was your server and your decision so you rebanned me and got deadmined. You the proceeded to ragequit after clearing your bricks.

1. I don't consider a meatspin link a joke in ANY case.

2. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, I never blackmailed you with a ban.

3. My reasons were perfectly valid, Herecy should have recieved a harsher punishment than a simple "warning" which Jasa never said anything further about.

4. Jasa unbanned you after I rebanned you for posting the meatspin link, despite the rule of posting a researchographic, or shock link into the general chat, and having NO guidelines on what penalties should be placed, it falls under common sense.

Common sense tells me you deserved a day ban.

[Operator¹]

Wasn't against the rules of the server. And jasa told him the same, so did suburb and about 5 other players. He is incapable of listening to other people.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't make it exactly right. I think the ban was justified despite the fact that the other administrators said that it was not against the rules.

[Tømpson]

1. I don't consider a meatspin link a joke in ANY case.

2. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, I never blackmailed you with a ban.

3. My reasons were perfectly valid, Herecy should have recieved a harsher punishment than a simple "warning" which Jasa never said anything further about.

4. Jasa unbanned you after I rebanned you for posting the meatspin link, despite the rule of posting a researchographic, or shock link into the general chat, and having NO guidelines on what penalties should be placed, it falls under common sense.

Common sense tells me you deserved a day ban.

1. YOU don't consider it a joke. Not the other people of the server or the rules or the host or the admins.
2. Silencing me by holding information over my head is pretty much the definition of blackmail. If I did something wrong I should have been punished on the spot. Which I didn't do anything wrong.
3. Again, not your server not your rules not your punishment.
4. Again, it's your opinion which doesn't follow the rules of the server. If you don't like it say so, don't ban me for your opinions.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't make it exactly right. I think the ban was justified despite the fact that the other administrators said that it was not against the rules.

Everyone else knew it was a joke. They said it was a joke. Including the host and the other admins. Obviously, it was a joke and wasn't breaking rules, therefor he shouldn't have banned me three times for the same reason.

[Dexxtter]

Just wanna say that at the bottom of the rules thingy on Jasa's post it says:

Last of all, use common sense. If something sounds bad, don't do it.
An admin can ban you for anything reasonable if it's not listed.

[Conservative]

1. YOU don't consider it a joke. Not the other people of the server or the rules or the host or the admins.

I'm going to create my own rules, as an administrator, if those specific rules do not exist on the matter.

2. Silencing me by holding information over my head is pretty much the definition of blackmail. If I did something wrong I should have been punished on the spot. Which I didn't do anything wrong.

Again, I have NO idea what you're talking about, explain to me when this happened.

3. Again, not your server not your rules not your punishment.

I administrate the server, and have decided not to abide by the hosts rules because they simply fail to deliver proper punishment upon the starfishs in the server.

I don't consider a meatspin link worth a loving mute.

4. Again, it's your opinion which doesn't follow the rules of the server. If you don't like it say so, don't ban me for your opinions.

Again, there is no rule against the linking. I ban with proper judgement, I don't ban for personal gain.

[CharlesSpeaking]

Just wanna say that at the bottom of the rules thingy on Jasa's post it says:

okay
now i definitely support this drama