Mic left on after NJ senate meeting reveals they actually DO want your guns.

[Gamefandan]

>what is a joke

Come on now, for someone who acts like he's so smart and knows everything, you're pretty dull.

In saying this do you claim to know as close to everything as is physically possible? Insult is the lowest form of wit, but in your case, it seems appropriate: You smell bad.

In a perfect world, background checks are perfectly reasonable and I would accept them. However, that would also include checking for mental illness, and who decides what the definition of "mentally ill"? In the Soviet Union it was considered a mental illness to disagree with the government, therefore allowing them to take your guns and arrest you when you say "you can't do that!"

Your argument depends on the idea that we are in the Soviet Union. Well done.

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[Sir Blocksalot]

In a perfect world, background checks are perfectly reasonable and I would accept them. However, that would also include checking for mental illness, and who decides what the definition of "mentally ill"? In the Soviet Union it was considered a mental illness to disagree with the government, therefore allowing them to take your guns and arrest you when you say "you can't do that!"

But this isn't the Soviet Union is it? Quit citing fallen foreign regimes as arguments.

[Dracpot]

No it doesn't. If you allow the government to dictate WHY you should have a right taken away as well as define the circumstances, you are asking for trouble.

In saying this do you claim to know as close to everything as is physically possible? Insult is the lowest form of wit, but in your case, it seems appropriate: You smell bad.

What are you even saying? I didn't claim that. You're putting words in my mouth.

[Nonnel]

But this isn't the Soviet Union is it? Quit citing fallen foreign regimes as arguments.

That's the direction the country is going in.

[Sir Blocksalot]

No it doesn't. If you allow the government to dictate WHY you should have a right taken away as well as define the circumstances, you are asking for trouble.

And letting the people run around with guns and make there own laws is a better option? I'm all for individual rights, but not when it endangers the people around them and the system they live in.

[Gamefandan]

What are you even saying? I didn't claim that. You're putting words in my mouth.

I did not say that you claimed it. I asked if you were implying it. You are the one putting words in my mouth.

[Sir Blocksalot]

That's the direction the country is going in.

And when we have a conservative president, that will change. The cycle continues.

[Dracpot]

I did not say that you claimed it. I asked if you were implying it. You are the one putting words in my mouth.

No, I don't claim to know everything. I don't see how the pertains to you jumping in on everything and opening with an insult like a child.

And letting the people run around with guns and make there own laws is a better option? I'm all for individual rights, but not when it endangers the people around them and the system they live in.

Yes. As I said before, an armed populace accepting the government is much better than a disarmed one accepting it.

[TeslaCoil]

fukin libs

But this isn't the Soviet Union is it? Quit citing fallen foreign regimes as arguments.

This is why they say history is doomed to repeat itself. Just because its old doesn't mean it can't be used again. Learn from your history, don't take it for granted. NEVER FORGET things that were once used to control masses.

[Gamefandan]

I don't see how the pertains to you jumping in on everything and opening with an insult like a child.

So you are saying that those who have insulted another should not be insulted themselves? Oh I'm sorry, you were kidding originally, weren't you? In that case:

You're a loving moron.

I'm kidding. So that means that what I said holds no weight, correct?

[Sir Blocksalot]

Yes. As I said before, an armed populace accepting the government is much better than a disarmed one accepting it.

But an armed populace is already implying they don't trust the government, it shows. And when the government sees this, they lose trust in the people, and then there's tension and conflict. It's a prisoner's dilemma, both sides are better off blindly trusting, but because they don't think the others will they end up fighting instead.

[Harm94]

And letting the people run around with guns and make there own laws is a better option? I'm all for individual rights, but not when it endangers the people around them and the system they live in.

There will always be stupid people who endanger others. That is why we have police, to serve and protect. Also laws that keep weapon out of the hands of dangerous people. Ofcourse as someone who is looking to go into law enforcement and watches shows like cops, and Alaska state troopers(which probably has media bias ofcourse) there will always be someone who has lost their right to own a weapon, yet the have a gun on them after being released from prison.

[Dracpot]

So you are saying that those who have insulted another should not be insulted themselves? Oh I'm sorry, you were kidding.

You're a loving moron.

I'm kidding. So that means that what I said holds no weight, correct?

What are you so upset about? Because I called someone dull? Are you offended by someone else being called dull, when they were in fact overreacting and BEING DULL? I was hardly being handicapped and only having a civil discussion, but you're angry at me for calling someone dull?

But an armed populace is already implying they don't trust the government, it shows. And when the government sees this, they lose trust in the people, and then there's tension and conflict. It's a prisoner's dilemma, both sides are better off blindly trusting, but because they don't think the others will they end up fighting instead.

That's hardly true at all. Most people don't keep guns in case of rebellion, but for self-defense, or maybe they just collect them. An armed populace ensures it's freedom, and they will only distrust the government when they start to curb that freedom, which is exactly what you are witnessing in the country.

[Sir Blocksalot]

That's hardly true at all. Most people don't keep guns in case of rebellion, but for self-defense, or maybe they just collect them. An armed populace ensures it's freedom, and they will only distrust the government when they start to curb that freedom, which is exactly what you are witnessing in the country.

I'm not saying remove the guns. I'm implying that militias are silly and ineffective, and that people shouldn't treat the government as the enemy. Besides, you're ignoring all of the rights that the people have received lately: gay marriage, drug legalizations, improvements towards racial rights, etc. 

[Harm94]

What are you so upset about? Because I called someone dull? Are you offended by someone else being called dull, when they were in fact overreacting and BEING DULL? I was hardly being handicapped and only having a civil discussion, but you're angry at me for calling someone dull?

It's that mindset I talked about earlier.

Besides, you're ignoring all of the rights that the people have received lately: gay marriage, drug legalizations, improvements towards racial rights, etc. 

What do these groups have to do with this discussion? Nothing. Legalizing marijuana has nothing to do with guns, gay marriage has nothing to do with guns, racial rights has nothing to do with guns unless they were denied the 2nd amendment and they are fighting for that right.