Author Topic: Massive Rant 3: School and how unessesary it is (for the most part)  (Read 4793 times)

wow i think op is just really dumb and doesnt pay attention in class
look at that spelling
You're handicapped. He only messed up 1 word.
If anything you're just being a huge hypocrite for not using proper English and periods.

There's so much wrong with the school system, and the rest of the system as well, that it feels kind of hopeless to even talk about it.

In school you get "taught" things, and then you forget them til the next week. There is no point to this. All that happens is that students read stuff right before the tests and then forget most of it. Ask people who went to school; if any of them remember much of it, they would probably also say it's because they had such a good teacher. Too bad not everyone has good teachers. Too bad there are so many bad teachers.

Why are dutch people getting power from russia instead of getting it 2 metres from their house? transporting energy all over the loving planet so that we can use it as unefficiently as possible is so dumb.
Why is food and clothes made 2389 miles from the people who buy them? it's loving stupid. These are just examples, but you get my point.

You are the only person that's responsible for the quality of your life, ultimately. If you don't enjoy school, it's because you haven't been able to figure out how to suck a meaningful experience out of it. If you don't have money, get a job. If you think you're fat or unattractive or whatever, work out.

Complaining gets you nowhere. Walking into the echo chamber of the internet and bitching about how unfair life is to you is the most unproductive and useless attempt at improving your life. Things get done by loving -doing- them, not talking about them or thinking them, but actually doing the work. You won't get rich putting in a couple hours a week at some skill. You won't get slim by going to the gym once. You have to have the determination and the nerve to carve out a lifestyle of self improvement for yourself- you need to get up every day and suck the marrow out of life, learn from every experience, think critically about what you do with every hour of your day, and loving improve your life.
Scientifically, this is complete bullstuff. However you might get a point because you posting this might improve someone's life, if you're lucky.

What I find difficult about school is that surviving both socially and academically can be tough. I mean a lot of the really smart guys I know have basically shut themselves from the world while the really social guys get bad grades but live in the moment. Doing both has been a challenge for me for the longest time. Especially Middle School because social survival kept you sane and not depressed (I was very depressed in 8th grade). I'm getting mainly B's, a C or two and one A. It's just a lot of outside factors beyond academics have really messed things up for me.
I think about how I could change a lot to be able to do more work, but on the other hand, I don't really want to adapt to something I disagree with. I don't want to become what I dislike.
It's like working towards a driver's license while disagreeing with the whole idea of cars in our society.


Why are dutch people getting power from russia instead of getting it 2 metres from their house? transporting energy all over the loving planet so that we can use it as unefficiently as possible is so dumb.
Why is food and clothes made 2389 miles from the people who buy them? it's loving stupid. These are just examples, but you get my point.

Those statements are completely irrelevant to the discussion. Whether or not the Netherlands is able to create it's own power does not depend on their educational system. Also, according to Wikipedia, the Netherlands imported only 13-15% of electricity during 2005-2008. That's not half bad. Most countries do this. To fully comprehend the logistics and reasoning behind this, you have to get a good education with lots of math and an engineering degree in energy management.

Clothes and food is made 2389 miles from the people who buy them because Dutch soil isn't made for growing certain types of plants, such as cotton, pinapples or rice. Furthermore, the Dutch economy is based on the production of services and high-value technological goods. That creates much more BNP than aggriculture, and is thus better for the economic growth of the country. The production of food and clothes and other low-value goods is outsourced to low-cost developing countries in Asia and Africa. Why? Because it is cheaper, even with added transportation costs for the 2389 miles the goods have to be shipped.
Of course, this kind of economy isn't ideal from a global point of view. The best thing would be if all countries were self-sustainable, meaning they produce their own food and technology. Obviously, that isn't going to happen. You can blame capitalism, but our modern lifestyles require this kind of economy. For more information on this subject, I recommend that you pay attention in school, especially in math class, and follow up with a masters degree in global economy.

I think about how I could change a lot to be able to do more work, but on the other hand, I don't really want to adapt to something I disagree with. I don't want to become what I dislike.
It's like working towards a driver's license while disagreeing with the whole idea of cars in our society.
There's a slight difference between having a car and going to school. Cars aren't mandatory, education is. Cars generate lots of trouble (CO2 emmisions etc.), while education only provides benefits. Okay, you may be forced to waste a couple of years of your life learning something you will never need. But this collective constraint allows a country to generate knowledge among its citizens. That knowledge can be harvested later in form of high-tech. companies that create high-value technological goods (Shell, SBM Offshore, NXP Semiconductors). In other words, a lengthy and good educational system is necessary for a country to be a developed, first world country.

if you hate school then your teachers are crap, or your school is crap, or you are a swagcigarette.

i hated my previous school (if you have seen my school-related topics in off-topic) but now my new school is amazing, i have nothing to complain about it (except one teacher is a little wacky but thats it)

my reading/writing teacher is loving stupid

she says she worked 20 jobs in a month,
has this "disease" that cant let her smell sharpies or cologne (people wear cologne, nothing happens)
is blind in left eye (i guess??)
worked for chicago tribune (bs)
and doesnt teach stuff

she says she worked as a firefighter, police officer, and a lawyer (obv more jobs but ya)


she doesnt even teach us anything, and since she's suppose to teach us grammar, she loving sucks at grammar.

Freek is really becoming a super angsty teenager lately.

Freek officially wins Casuist of the Year Award: 2013.

Those statements are completely irrelevant to the discussion. Whether or not the Netherlands is able to create it's own power does not depend on their educational system. Also, according to Wikipedia, the Netherlands imported only 13-15% of electricity during 2005-2008. That's not half bad. Most countries do this. To fully comprehend the logistics and reasoning behind this, you have to get a good education with lots of math and an engineering degree in energy management.

Clothes and food is made 2389 miles from the people who buy them because Dutch soil isn't made for growing certain types of plants, such as cotton, pinapples or rice. Furthermore, the Dutch economy is based on the production of services and high-value technological goods. That creates much more BNP than aggriculture, and is thus better for the economic growth of the country. The production of food and clothes and other low-value goods is outsourced to low-cost developing countries in Asia and Africa. Why? Because it is cheaper, even with added transportation costs for the 2389 miles the goods have to be shipped.
Of course, this kind of economy isn't ideal from a global point of view. The best thing would be if all countries were self-sustainable, meaning they produce their own food and technology. Obviously, that isn't going to happen. You can blame capitalism, but our modern lifestyles require this kind of economy. For more information on this subject, I recommend that you pay attention in school, especially in math class, and follow up with a masters degree in global economy.
You quoted the wrong part. You quoted me talking about the system in general, not education. You also interpretated that I was only talking about the Dutch throughout, which I wasn't.

"Obviously, that isn't going to happen" well it's pretty useless to talk about it if you don't believe in change.

There's a slight difference between having a car and going to school. Cars aren't mandatory, education is. Cars generate lots of trouble (CO2 emmisions etc.), while education only provides benefits. Okay, you may be forced to waste a couple of years of your life learning something you will never need. But this collective constraint allows a country to generate knowledge among its citizens. That knowledge can be harvested later in form of high-tech. companies that create high-value technological goods (Shell, SBM Offshore, NXP Semiconductors). In other words, a lengthy and good educational system is necessary for a country to be a developed, first world country.
This is an unbelievably silly tangent. The driver's license was just an example to clarify my point.

You also seem to think that because I think there's something wrong with education, I don't think we should have education. That's illogical.

It's teaching you how to operate in society, taking orders from superiors and whatnot.

You quoted the wrong part. You quoted me talking about the system in general, not education. You also interpretated that I was only talking about the Dutch throughout, which I wasn't.

"Obviously, that isn't going to happen" well it's pretty useless to talk about it if you don't believe in change.

I quoted the right part. The "system" in general has nothing to do with the education system, that's why I said it was irrelevant. I know you weren't talking about the Dutch specifically, but I used you example to illustrate my points. The same arguments are valid for Norway, Germany, the US or any other developed country.

"Obviously, that's going to happen". I was talking about sustainable economies that don't rely on import / export of goods. That would be the ideal communist country.  You saw what happend to the USSR...

You also seem to think that because I think there's something wrong with education, I don't think we should have education. That's illogical.
I never said I thought you wanted to get rid of education alltogether. I was just trying to explain why education (even math and stuff most people don't need) is important from a national point of view, nothing against you in particular.

Why does everyone think that they don't need school? It obviously exists for a reason.

Of course they could do a better job of teaching you to question things, such as authority, but then they would be undermining all their bullstuff.

school should be illegal it hasn't taught us anything right op??

I used to feel the same way about school.


But then I went to a charter school yaaaaayyyy

I felt this way but then I went to a Technical High School, which teaches you something useful so I'm satisfied with my schooling.

The point of school isn't learning (not all of it anyways), but it's about remembering.
yeah sadly
especially science
stupid gd public school

history tho, that's just memorization 100% which is why I think it is bs and I don't want to take history classes period