Author Topic: Women to fight in America's elite military units  (Read 13347 times)

well this topic sure turned into vietnam

Not in the slightest.
Then debate

Why is strength not an extremely important part to being in a specialized unit?

Why do they stress on being physically strong if its not important?

OP is loveist as forget.

he's right. woman are naturally weaker than man. blame evolution

Not in the slightest.
It's endurance and being able to make quick choices

Then debate

Why is strength not an extremely important part to being in a specialized unit?

Why do they stress on being physically strong if its not important?
Some of the strongest men in CSAR training drop out the quickest

Then debate

Why is strength not an extremely important part to being in a specialized unit?

Why do they stress on being physically strong if its not important?

Because it's generally common among special forces and other elite groups, it's in ample supply. If you have one spot to fill, and it's between a specialist in intel and counter-intel and some guy who's stronger, the counter-intel guy will win. Strenght is good, sure, but your skill set is everything.

It's endurance and being able to make quick choices
Some of the strongest men in CSAR training drop out the quickest
This^

Because they aren't capable, you illiterate forget.

If you're not going to put enough effort in to research your own argument you can kindly shut the forget up. All of these are BASIC COURSES. In case you didn't know, elite forces are a lot harder.

simplest terms possible since ur dumb- Women can fight, but are not capable enough to pass even the most basic of requirements to safely fight alongside the hardworking men of this countries armed forces.

The fact the two women failed the course isn't scientific evidence that all women on the planet can't pass it either, dumbass.
Get a larger sample size then your theory will be much more plausible.

Because it's generally common among special forces and other elite groups, it's in ample supply. If you have one spot to fill, and it's between a specialist in intel and counter-intel and some guy who's stronger, the counter-intel guy will win. Strenght is good, sure, but your skill set is everything.
if it's not strength then what skill set are woman not capable in?


The fact the two women failed the course isn't scientific evidence that all women on the planet can't pass it either, dumbass.
Get a larger sample size then your theory will be much more plausible.
They were the last two out of a large scale test. They were literally the last two things between completely open armed forces and a male-only armed forces. Read the articles, don't just read links.

if it's not strength then what skill set are woman not capable in?
Don't get me wrong, it's definitely physically demanding, but I think it's more endurance, mentality, and basic ability.

if it's not strength then what skill set are woman not capable in?
This I agree with
Because it's generally common among special forces and other elite groups, it's in ample supply. If you have one spot to fill, and it's between a specialist in intel and counter-intel and some guy who's stronger, the counter-intel guy will win. Strenght is good, sure, but your skill set is everything.
This^
Its still important
How is that so hard to comprehend. You need to be physically strong and tough
It's endurance and being able to make quick choices
Some of the strongest men in CSAR training drop out the quickest
I never said that because you are the strongest you'll pass

I was just saying that strength is extremely important

There are tons of other factors that you need to be good at in order to perform in the special forces


There are tons of other factors that you need to be good at in order to perform in the special forces
Which is why I can't understand you being stuck on strength. My grandfather was special forces in vietnam. He's never been above 180 lbs. He is fit. He isn't strong. He and I work out with the same weights and I hit the gym maybe four times a month(on a good month). He was in because he was good at what he did, and he could take the physical and mental punishment that came with the job.

Which is why I can't understand you being stuck on strength. My grandfather was special forces in vietnam. He's never been above 180 lbs. He is fit. He isn't strong. He and I work out with the same weights and I hit the gym maybe four times a month(on a good month). He was in because he was good at what he did, and he could take the physical and mental punishment that came with the job.
hold on, so you're saying that strength is NOT important in special forces

but woman are still not capable of undertaking the other forces that are entailed in special forces training.

because i'm confused

Which is why I can't understand you being stuck on strength. My grandfather was special forces in vietnam. He's never been above 180 lbs. He is fit. He isn't strong. He and I work out with the same weights and I hit the gym maybe four times a month(on a good month). He was in because he was good at what he did, and he could take the physical and mental punishment that came with the job.
Im not "stuck" on strength

You assume because I bring up a logical point that thats all I think you need to have to be in the special forces
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stop me if i'm wrong but there's a lot more to special forces than just brute strength, right?
I responded to this just saying that strength is important

This is my final say on this issue.

Women are not in actual combat possitions because they cannot
take the physical and mental punishment that came with the job.
Other factors notwithstanding.

okay let's put it this way
a woman and a man are both just as smart, levelheaded, and skilled with weaponry. hell, they're even at a similar weight.
the man however, is stronger.
who's getting picked?

This is probably the SECOND most stupid thing I have heard today