Nations at War - Closing Time!

[Muslim]

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[Muslim]

good job mlockha. you did it

[SWAT One]

Muslim,

The practice of claiming things in writing has existed in Earth threads longer than you have been here.  It often has been used hand-in-hand with map edits, but writing had always been seen as a valid way to claim land.  You and mlockha are suddenly saying that your way is "better", and that it takes precedence over a traditional way of role playing.  I invite you to look at the older nation RPs.

For my second point, the notion that I am invincible as a member of the Triumvirate has nothing to do with the claim.  It was settled in pen, and will be reviewed by Plethora to decide what happens.

[Muslim]

Muslim,

The practice of claiming things in writing has existed in Earth threads longer than you have been here.  It often has been used hand-in-hand with map edits, but writing had always been seen as a valid way to claim land.  You and mlockha are suddenly saying that your way is "better", and that it takes precedence over a traditional way of role playing.  I invite you to look at the older nation RPs.

For my second point, the notion that I am invincible as a member of the Triumvirate has nothing to do with the claim.  It was settled in pen, and will be reviewed by Plethora to decide what happens.

That's loving stupid though. You're invincible, and now you can claim land by saying "oh yeah, by the way, i want this"?

loving OP!

[SWAT One]

Me being "invincible" has NOTHING to do with it.  I am purely talking about claim settlement precedence.  I posted in writing that the land was claimed, then you edited it and said it was yours.  That's the equivalent of America making the Louisiana Purchase by treaty and then Spain shows up a year later and settles in the newly purchased land and says "Nope it's ours now and you can't say otherwise."

[mlockha]

I'm done with this stuff. The web of alliances, the Triumvirate, the fact that nothing can get done without one member of the Triumvirate intervening and nobody being able to do anything about it other then just surrender.
This isn't nations at war anymore. This is just peacetime dictated by 3 OP Nations.
The AM dies, and Yaslovakia gets all of the AM's poesssions and stuff.

[Muslim]

I'm done. I quit. You're too handicapped for me to enjoy this. I give all of my stuff to Yaslovakia.

[SWAT One]

Note that Plethora could void my claim, as I realize it is on the large side.  You may still keep your lands and I get squat.  The verdict isn't even read and you're giving up?  Please, I mean nothing personal, and if you think this is a personal attack, then I am sorry.  I want to play with you guys in a peaceful manner, but I believe this dispute has to be settled in an official manner.  It's still up in the air.

If Plethora rules in my favor, you may keep your claims as you settled them.  In fact, I would like to postpone the Neutral Zone and Asian claim.  I would like the claims to be negotiable, but for future reference, I would like to make sure that the topic runs off of one system so there is no confusion.

[SirLancelot7]

Just adding in my two cents, I'm pretty confident that in the past if someone posted that they had moved in and settled or claimed the land, then that is what happened.  We can't always be bothered to update the map each time we make a little expansion.  Plethora usually just updated the map himself with any vocal claims.

And I'm not a member of the triumvirate and I'm still close to being a power on the world.  Irrkland just hasn't been around very long..

[A million souls]

And I'm not a member of the triumvirate and I'm still close to being a power on the world.  Irrkland just hasn't been around very long..

Well actually...

I'm damn sure my country has been here the longest (if you count Belsnia as a completely different country to the BFSSR).
Yet, my city is bombarded without intervention, my ships are sunk without intervention, my planes are shot down without intervention.
(as in my intervention)

So by your definition i should be a world power, yet i am seen (atleast i think this is how Slevokxia seen) as a 2nd World Power.
With the "Big Three" (eranium, AC and Belsnia) as the biggest powers around.

The problem (along with the one below) is that:
Power is not measured in time, it is measured in size.
(Although it should be a combination of both, i am infinitely smaller than the big "three" but i gave myself advantages and waited aslong as i could bear before posting claims and research to ensure the game is even)

The total population, land mass, resource production, and general military force of the Triumvirate is far greater than anything Slevokxia can front.

(Or Anyone else)

The problem is that the game lacks balance.
People can say something to completely make sure the enemy cannot counter it.
Or they can say something that disregards the enemies' post and counter it.
Without a game master / battle master the game suddenly becomes unfair in wars.

This is my main problem with this game as is everyone elses.
(demonstrated in the war and the many before it)
(also a reason why many have quit)
(Muslim quits because (as far as i can tell from the posts) he will not risk a war with the "big three" but instead has to sacrifice his claim.)
( as i have done with Iceland (Tengoku) and Sinai (AC) )

You're fighting the AC, which is allied with Belsnia, Erinaum, and Klevinstein.  These nations are fully equipped and up to date in both military and other technologies. The total population, land mass, resource production, and general military force of the Triumvirate is far greater than anything Slevokxia can front.  

(Or anyone else)

You fight a war such as the Southern Confederacy did against the north, or Japan did against the United States.  Make it easy on yourself and end it before your nation is irreparable.

(while this is true, it adds to the frustration of the game)

Power is not measured in time, it is measured in size.
That size gives you an advantage when it comes to overriding / countering someones post.

I propose the all countries not allied with members of the Tibilisi Pact join me in APEP

Asian Pacific European Pact

The idea is to create a defensive pact for every nation not allied with the "big three".
Should the Tibilisi Pact invade say... Utah, every member would be brought into the war.
But if Slevokxia declares war on Utah, no one would intervene.
(Assuming Utah is a member of APEP)

Current Members:
Slevokxia

Invited Members:
Everyone not allied to any of the "big three"
Everyone allied/trading with Slevokxia
Everyone joining or thinking of joining
Everyone who has played this before

[Jairo]

the triumvirate is an unbalanced mechanic in this rp

in previous earth threads, sure there were superpowers, but they never teamed up

reasons being because it removes all of the fun from the game

example: this thread

[Mikoyan]

But I didn't do anything

Also what is this triumvriate?? Is it an official group? If it is I never joined anything. Also the only Tbilisi pact members are AC and Belsnia. Erinaum is just in the space program I thought...

[SirLancelot7]

Do I join the APEP if I'm an ally with one of the triumvirate?

[Rockinboy2000]

Ill be honest, not too much has been happening recently except for one war

Also if Erinaum takes our colonized land without permission klevinstein doesn't mind sanctions or an attack though we are sure they are going after the unclaimed land

[Mikoyan]

Also, a million souls, belsnia is evolved from BFSSR they aren't completely different.