Author Topic: UK "research" filter will also block alcohol, smoking, web forums, etc. content  (Read 3995 times)


I only read the "not censorship" part, but it still is the government trying to babysit their citizens.

parents don't know how to parent

I only read the "not censorship" part, but it still is the government trying to babysit their citizens.
Sometimes they need babysitting.

There are enough social problems in the UK to warrant any number of changes.

For most evidence of that, I'd just link to any "reality" show on BBC Three.

Told you it's a terriable idea.
Any kind of nation wide filter or tracking is terriable.


Congratulations on the longest logical post ever.

Anyway I agree with what you've said, and yes passing the law is a huge process. A good reason this whole filter thing is OK is because it's not permanent. You are given the chance to call in and disabled it given you're the bill payer or over 18 years old.

Due to research/love/nudity being a sort of anathema, it labels people who want access to content as simple as web forums or "esoteric content" as perverts, which is embarrassing. Not to mention, Cameron could easily pull the "i'm not making it a choice anymore; always on" very easily, under the guise of protecting the children. It'd be much easier for him to censor the internet fully were his plans to be enacted. His plan is filled with small steps, with the final goal being to have full control over the internet in all the UK.
This. The Internet Service Providers will have a master "pervert list" and if you ever look up anything on that list, they could easily sell the information to private corporations who will use it as a reason to not hire you. That's not to say that they will, but they easily could. Want to access your favorite web forum? You're not being hired because you unblocked the filter which means you must look at PR0N AL DAIII!!!1!one!!eleven!

Too bad parents of today doesn't know how Parental Control works on computers and instead gives their 9 year olds a loving iPhone and Call of Duty.

It really is the future!
Yeah, nowadays I see five-year-olds richarding around on bloody brutal cell phone games. I mean, seriously, people? Epic failure.


Dooble, I worry that a few of these things will be far too easy to wrongfully flag.
It is blocking "extremist related content".
These are terrorist linked websites that display all sorts of information, from making bombs to planting them in busy city locations.
It is this sort of thing that the Police and Government spend millions of pounds and hours a year trying to take down.
It is these sorts of things that cause such incidents like the tragic death of Drummer Lee Rigby earlier this year, and the Boston Bombings.
But who is to decide what's "extremist" and what isn't? And how is it to be decided?

It is blocking "web forums".
I can't say what sort of web forums it blocks, if it's all of them.
But think how many there are out there that are entirely unfit for any child to visit.
Places where all of the above are expressed in large amounts.
Even places like here, which are exceedingly tame and fit within the confines of most laws, are incredibly vulgar and rude, and not at all safe for young children.
Blocking the dangerous ones is good.
The issue here is not so much with young children, but with overprotective parents in all the wrong places. Parents will refuse to lift the block for their teen son because he wants to look at his old forums, because obviously he really only wants to look at research
Long story short, my main issue with a system like this would be the potential for misuse and abuse. Parents will, as they often do, "stick with the default". They won't remove the restrictions on young teens who want to go on these sorts of forums because "if we unblock (whatever you want to look at, i.e. the forums) we have to unblock research and you're going to look at it".
Seriously. That's the actual argument my parents gave me when I wanted them to lift their damn web filter (which, incidentally, fires off false positives almost constantly).
Furthermore, if the internet service providers ever sell or make public their "master list of who has the filter off" it'll be a huge issue with employment as mentioned above.

this "filter" can go forget itself.

OT: if i have a internet security like Kaspersky will everything still be blocked?

This. The Internet Service Providers will have a master "pervert list" and if you ever look up anything on that list, they could easily sell the information to private corporations who will use it as a reason to not hire you. That's not to say that they will, but they easily could. Want to access your favorite web forum? You're not being hired because you unblocked the filter which means you must look at PR0N AL DAIII!!!1!one!!eleven!
oh my loving god all you baby ass conspiracy theorists
that isn't even a thing they would be able to legally do
So seriously, shut the forget up about your naive paranoid delusions that the UK will turn into a dictatorship with Etonian David Cameron at the head.
Your stupid views are not needed, especially when you don't even understand the system you're talking about.

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Yet by letting this law pass, we make it easier for a full fledged filter to be put in place. The equipment required to filter internet will already be there. Anyone who would speak out against making it a full time censor could be demonized as a pervert, or someone who doesn't care about the children.  Yet he's made it a freedom issue by trying to impose a filter on the entire nation. The law itself has vague requirements for blocking; "esoteric material"? "web forums"? "Web blocking circumvention tools"? Why would they be concerned with people circumventing a filter that is optional?

If Cameron was truly doing this for the children, he would push to make filters like NetNanny known to parents who wish to block their children from such content. It's much less trouble, and it doesn't create an issue.

the equipment to filter the internet has always existed, what are you going on about

this really only is bad for you kids or manchildren using mom's internet.
normal people wont be  affected by this at all.

the equipment to filter the internet has always existed, what are you going on about
fine. it will still make it easier to swallow when cameron pushes for a no-choice filter.

which will a. never happen b. if it did it would get nowhere

wait since when was a web forum bad?