Siba: The abusive admin on a banning spree. (On Zapk's Rising Lava server.)

[Electrk]

wait so is siba conservative or not? i'm so confused

I think he's a libertarian

[Ad Bot]

[Pandan]

I'm going out on a limb here and saying that pandan is siba. no, I don't have any proof to back this up but it is just my gut feeling. they both take this game way too seriously, and pandan seems to be defending siba on all positions possible.

The only reason why I defend siba is because he's my friend.
It's probably an unfair bias, so I'm sorry.

If he really is a badmin, that's a shame. He doesn't come across to me as abusive.
I came into this topic because I saw the word "Siba" and I know him decently well. So here i am

Also, I'm not siba. And siba is not pandan. This accusation is almost as silly as the "Pandan is Gamefandan".

If you want, badspot can back me up on that one.
Badspot would probably say something like
"Pandan is too self absorbed to take a different name. He would shove his name onto everything, accusing Pandan of alt accounting without telling everyone who he is." blah blah.

Trust me, I'm not siba. Rofl.

[DiceyGrammar]

"Pandan is too self absorbed to take a different name. He would shove his name onto everything, accusing Pandan of alt accounting without telling everyone who he is." blah blah.

you summed yourself up pretty well really

[torak11]

Okay, i get a sense of what your saying, but we need more details, the info you provided is not enough to truly label siba as a badmin, for all we know, Zeblote could've been messing around with the players, and siba banned him because siba thought zebolte was being an admin.

Long story short, more info needed please.

[Conservative]

Never tell your password to anyone.
5:19 PM - siba: I've removed Zeblote from the administration team and server.
5:20 PM - siba: Abusing his admin powers, encouraging others to treat teamers like stuff, and breaking parts of the build.
9:33 PM - Zapk: What?!
10:00 PM - siba: HI.
10:00 PM - siba: You there?
10:00 PM - siba: Want to talk about the stuff?
10:01 PM - Zapk: Yeah
10:01 PM - siba: Okay.
10:01 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/xrqbn1r.png
10:01 PM - siba: In this image.
10:01 PM - siba: We see Zeblote and Datablock ganging up on Gidyspace011 because he is teaming with a friend.
10:01 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/whDo9Ag.png
10:01 PM - siba: In this image.
10:02 PM - Zapk: "no you aren't"
10:02 PM - siba: We see Zeblote correcting his spelling mistake and the rest of the server continuing to make fun of it.
10:02 PM - Zapk: He's just being funny, nothing wrong.
10:02 PM - siba: Evidence backs that up in the next few pics.
10:02 PM - siba: Hang on.
10:02 PM - Zapk: Correcting mistakes is fine.
10:02 PM - Zapk: Infact I do it all the time.
10:02 PM - siba: Yes but allowing the whole server to gang up on the player is not.
10:02 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/PDxR5U8.png
10:03 PM - siba: In this image, continued making fun of gidy regarding his spelling.
10:03 PM - Zapk: Zeblote never said "make fun of him!1!"
10:03 PM - siba: Hannng on, still coming.
10:03 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/BZdMrYk.png
10:03 PM - siba: Unsure of this image.
10:03 PM - siba: Looks like just proof that Maddix and Gidy were teaming.
10:03 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/PbD1scG.png
10:04 PM - siba: Gidy complains about the players making fun of him for teaming.
10:04 PM - siba: Zeblote retorts with "says the nobo (noob) teaming up"
10:04 PM - siba: And I am unsure as to why.
10:04 PM - siba: But I do not have the image here of Zeblote admitting to breaking parts of the builds.
10:04 PM - siba: With a response of "because I can"
10:05 PM - siba: Gonna try to find it here...
10:05 PM - Zapk: Breaking parts of the build?
10:05 PM - siba: Destroying the top of festung due to 'camping'.
10:05 PM - siba: As well as parts of SPO castle.
10:05 PM - Zapk: ah ok
10:06 PM - siba: Can't seem to find the image, Armageddon can back me up on this tho.
10:06 PM - siba: He saw everything and took the images/brought me in the server.
10:06 PM - siba: I joined to be faced with players making fun of gidy, and two players continuously spamming #swag #yolo hashtags filling the chat at a constant rate.
10:07 PM - siba: And Zeblote not doing stuff.
10:07 PM - siba: And after hearing about all this and feeling rightfully so that he abused his power.
10:07 PM - siba: I removed his auto admin, he re-added himself and left.
10:07 PM - siba: I removed it again and banned him for 15 days.
10:08 PM - siba: Look at the reason in your banlist yourself, too long for the GUI.
10:08 PM - siba: Anyway, he abused his power, treated a player like stuff, allowed others to treat said player like stuff (encouraging it), and destroyed parts of the build possibly for personal gain.
10:09 PM - siba: And it was enough for a friend to message me on RTB.
10:09 PM - siba: Thoughts?
10:09 PM - siba: forget gotta find that admittance img.
10:09 PM - siba: Arma is not online at this time.
10:09 PM - siba: So I cannot retrieve them.
10:10 PM - siba: I'll go through my history...
10:10 PM - siba: This a picture you saw?
10:10 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/OeRrnsq.png
10:11 PM - siba: Annnd the breaking builds proof.
10:11 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/LekiERS.png
10:11 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/jmLWIR6.png
10:11 PM - Zapk: "because i can"
10:11 PM - Zapk: What is he responding too?
10:11 PM - Zapk: to*
10:11 PM - siba: Breaking builds.
10:11 PM - Zapk: Proof?
10:11 PM - siba: First image.
10:12 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/jmLWIR6.png
10:12 PM - siba: http://i.imgur.com/LekiERS.png
10:12 PM - siba: Second image.
10:12 PM - Zapk: kk
10:12 PM - siba: I initially banned both of the spammers for teaming up as well but rebanned them for a day after Arma told me they weren't part of it.
10:13 PM - siba: Just spammed the server.
10:13 PM - siba: And Datablock is allegedly part of this.
10:13 PM - siba: As bad as Zeblote according to Arma.
10:13 PM - siba: No proof on that really tho.
10:13 PM - siba: So I didn't do anything,
10:14 PM - siba: http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=240197.0
10:14 PM - siba: Oh stuff.
10:15 PM - Zapk: Put the proof in the topic
10:15 PM - Zapk: he has no ground
10:15 PM - Zapk: like at all
10:15 PM - Zapk: lol

[Aware]

Yeah I didn't think siba was an abusive admin, I've seen him on Pecon's many times.

[Conservative]

[16:51:04] Zeblote: okay, now explain why you are so mad
[16:53:51] siba: http://i.imgur.com/jmLWIR6.png
[16:53:53] siba: http://i.imgur.com/LekiERS.png
[16:53:56] siba: http://i.imgur.com/OeRrnsq.png
[16:54:20] siba: Destroying part of the map counts as abuse, no matter what your opinion on it was.
[16:54:29] siba: Abuse of your power.
[16:54:35] siba: As well as messing with players.
[16:54:50] Zeblote: those pictures arent really acceptable at all
[16:54:54] Zeblote: it doesnt show what happened before
[16:55:24] siba: Solid evidence/admittance that you destroyed parts of the map.
[16:55:29] Zeblote: that gigi guy was mad fro no reason the whole time, everyone was hating on him
[16:55:33] siba: And I'm asking for more pictures now regarding the gigi guy.
[16:55:44] Zeblote: now stop acting like removing parts of the map equals banning badspot for no reason.
[16:56:34] Zeblote: i removed the pointy things on the roof of the spo castle map, because without them the top is way less easy to camp this making the game more fair.
[16:56:39] Zeblote: same with the roof of the festung map.
[16:56:59] siba: http://i.imgur.com/xrqbn1r.png
[16:57:00] siba: http://i.imgur.com/whDo9Ag.png
[16:57:49] siba: http://i.imgur.com/PDxR5U8.png
[16:57:50] siba: http://i.imgur.com/BZdMrYk.png
[16:57:51] Zeblote: as i said, gigi was being a nuisiance ( im not sure how to spell that properly sorry.)
[16:57:56] siba: "last one is proof of the guy wanting to team with giddy so"
[16:58:09] siba: "zeblotes a richard"
[16:58:15] siba: "and decided to comment for no reason being a douche"
[16:58:22] siba: "the rest is cut off because you waited too long lol"
[16:58:28] Zeblote: not sure where youre reading that
[16:58:35] siba: RTBC.
[16:58:42] siba: You don't need to know who's sending them to me.
[16:59:01] siba: http://i.imgur.com/PbD1scG.png
[16:59:19] siba: Looks to me like you and many of the other players ganged up on giddy because he was teaming.
[16:59:37] siba: Making fun of him when he would make a spelling mistake, calling him a noob and such.
[16:59:49] Zeblote: you know my opinion on teaming up, you dont need to show pictures of me expressing it
[17:00:09] siba: Teaming is not against the rules.
[17:00:20] siba: You had no reason to forget with the player for doing so.
[17:00:26] siba: Or for any reason whatsoever.
[17:00:39] siba: You're a loving admin, your job is to enforce rules and keep the peace.
[17:00:39] Zeblote: well.
[17:00:55] Zeblote: lets go back to when i joined the server.
[17:01:05] siba: "zeblote seems to be egging the kid on and making him angry"
[17:01:06] siba: "(not what an administrator is supposed to do obv)"
[17:01:12] siba: "only because the kid decided to team with another player"
[17:01:18] siba: "which isn't against the rules just frowned apon"
[17:01:31] siba: Go ahead and point out where you're justified in this.
[17:01:34] Zeblote: exactly, frowned upon for making the game unfair and last longer than it should.
[17:01:39] siba: If you can, and I'll drop it.
[17:01:48] siba: Zeblote.
[17:01:51] Zeblote: okay, lets start when i joined.
[17:02:04] siba: If it is not against the rules, you don't torture the player for doing so.
[17:02:23] Zeblote: i didnt "torture" him.
[17:02:24] siba: He did nothing wrong, you decided to enforce your opinion on him.
[17:02:38] siba: As well as many other players.
[17:03:27] siba: So..
[17:03:35] siba: You did abuse your power as an admin.
[17:03:47] siba: And whether or not you think breaking part of the map was beneficial to the gameplay.
[17:04:11] siba: It was against a rule of being an admin there.
[17:04:14] Zeblote: so other players fighting with gigi is okay, but me doing it is not?
[17:04:18] Zeblote: youre making no sense.
[17:04:24] siba: NOBODY, fighting with gig.
[17:04:30] siba: For no valid loving reason.
[17:04:32] siba: Is okay.
[17:04:41] siba: Teaming, is not a valid loving reason.
[17:04:59] siba: You're just the one that sticks out the most because you did not RID those players.
[17:05:05] siba: Rather, you ENCOURAGED it.
[17:05:30] siba: Do you understand.
[17:05:53] Zeblote: i dont see any point in talking with you
[17:05:59] Zeblote: youre just going to be mad no matter what i say.
[17:06:38] siba: You haven't provided a valid reason as to why you acted like an ass to an innocent player.
[17:06:47] siba: Your only claim is the guy was freaking out for no reason.
[17:06:56] siba: But the pictures contradict that statement.
[17:07:19] Zeblote: stop playing backseat moderator, please.
[17:07:46] siba: Defend your loving position if you want me to quit bothering you.
[17:07:50] siba: Explain yourself.
[17:08:09] Zeblote: you know, there are other reasons to be mad in-game.
[17:08:20] Zeblote: foir example, things happening before that, or out-of-game things.
[17:08:24] Zeblote: for*
[17:08:45] Zeblote: i gtg.
[17:08:47] siba: I don't consider out of game things reason to act like a prick.
* The recipient of your message was unreachable.

[Conservative]

08/24/13 17:19:21
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[17:19:21] [L]: Looks like someone is on a banning spree.
[17:20:27] siba: Shut the forget up. you treated players like stuff and constantly stuff talked throughout that entire time.
[17:20:44] [L]: Please describe to me what "stuff talk" is.
[17:21:09] siba: Nonsensical internet chat.
[17:21:27] siba: Such as a constant flow of #yolo #swag spam.
[17:21:31] siba: Like you were doing.
[17:22:07] siba: Zeblote was a faulty admin and encouraged you and Oddity to join in with him in treating a player that did nothing wrong like stuff.
[17:22:13] [L]: That was actually a joke.
[17:22:21] [L]: And Zeblote didn't encourage me to join in with him.
[17:22:35] [L]: I have my own free will, I've been on the server for a long time.
[17:22:38] siba: He didn't do stuff about you two, and you all three were doing it.
[17:22:47] siba: The only thing that would have stopped you was him.
[17:23:01] siba: He was encouraging you just by not stopping you.
[17:23:21] [L]: He was too busy arguing with you, and what do you mean "stopping" I wasn't doing anything wrong.
[17:23:55] siba: You joined in on the attack towards giddy.
[17:24:01] siba: As well as the stuff talking.
[17:24:01] [L]: Who's giddy?
[17:24:43] [L]: We'll see what Zapk has to see about this, regardless.
[17:25:36] [L]: Zapk worked too hard on the server to have stuffheads like you go and ruin it
[17:25:49] siba: "Was [L] in on treating giddy like stuff."
[17:25:53] siba: "oh no he wasnt"
[17:25:57] siba: "he was the one spamming hash tag stuff"
[17:26:03] siba: Your ban time has been reduced to one day.
[17:26:09] [L]: Who are you even quoting?
[17:27:38] [L]: what do you think Zapk thinks of you?
[17:28:05] siba: What does it matter?
[17:28:11] siba: I'm trying to do my best here.
[17:28:42] siba: Zeblote was treating giddy like stuff, Datablock allegedly was as well, oddity and you were spamming hashtag stuff.
[17:28:55] [L]: Banning players without a warning, and banning super admins for no reason is against admin rules
[17:29:15] siba: I banned him for perfectly valid loving reasons.
[17:29:15] [L]: The wisest thing for you to do now, so you don't get into even more trouble would to be unban Zeblote and me
[17:29:26] siba: Every single reason I placed in his ban reason, he commited.
[17:29:51] siba: I'm reducing your ban to a single day, possibly even less for the spam.
[17:29:52] [L]: That DOESNT MATTER
[17:29:55] siba: It was near constant.
[17:30:06] [L]: You need to give warnings for maybe me, fair enough if that was spam
[17:30:07] siba: L I don't have a guideline to follow here.
[17:30:10] [L]: BUT YOU CANT JUST BAN A SUPER ADMIN
[17:30:23] siba: I judge myself, Zapk doesn't enforce a guideline on me.
[17:30:34] siba: Yes I can.
[17:30:41] siba: Super admin abuses his power.
[17:30:54] siba: I can rid that player from the server until it is resolved by the host.
[17:31:14] [L]: Zapk is in charge of you, you're one of his admins.
[17:31:22] siba: Okay?
[17:31:37] siba: There are no rules against getting rid of an admin for clear abuse.
[17:31:46] [L]: Banning players and admins without a reason is abuse.
[17:31:50] [L]: You're the abuser here, honey.
[17:31:55] siba: Oh please.
[17:32:03] siba: You spam the server, you're asking for it.
[17:32:26] siba: I don't even normally ban for spamming.
[17:32:29] siba: Depends on the spamming.
[17:32:38] siba: Yours was near constant.
[17:32:45] [L]: Dude. Just do what is right now and unban Zeblote and me.
[17:32:49] [L]: Zapk will be fair I'm sure.
[17:32:50] siba: And wasn't just mashing your keyboard as much as you can.
[17:33:05] siba: You seem to be mistaken, Zapk does not have an opinion on this yet.
[17:33:14] [L]: Oh...you'd be suprised.
[17:33:17] siba: I, nor you, know the outcome of this.
[17:33:26] [L]: Well..
[17:33:35] siba: If I get de-admined, so be it.
[17:33:37] [L]: That's a bit...of a faulty statement
[17:33:43] [L]: Ooooh, it may be more than that.
[17:34:01] siba: But the reason will be for getting rid of players spamming the server and de-admining a super admin abusing his power.
[17:34:26] siba: Unless you manage to fabricate evidence, I believe I have the higher ground here.
[17:34:27] [L]: Siba, please. It's hard to see this, just unban Zeblote and me.
[17:34:34] siba: No.
[17:34:40] [L]: Okay then, sorry for this then.
[17:34:41] siba: We'll let Zapk sort it out, as you said.
[17:34:49] siba: I'll tell him everything.
[17:34:59] [L]: Yeah I kinda screencapped everything.
[17:35:01] siba: Including the accidental bans/reasons.
[17:35:04] siba: Okay?
[17:35:10] siba: How does that change anything.
[17:35:20] [L]: You'd be suprised
[17:35:25] siba: Explain.
[17:35:28] siba: What did I do wrong.
[17:35:28] [L]: anyway could you put me back on the server I was having fun.
[17:35:41] siba: Explain to me what I did wrong.
[17:36:00] [L]: You banned a long time playing super admin, and me without fairness.
[17:36:05] [L]: For me I'm cool with
[17:36:06] [L]: I spammed sure
[17:36:12] [L]: but you could have warned me about the ban
[17:36:17] [L]: But Zeblote was completely stupid.
[17:36:31] [L]: And for a whole day just for spam
[17:36:34] [L]: you loving kidding me?
[17:37:16] siba: I entered the server and I see many problems happening at once.
[17:37:26] [L]: Just unban me, it's best.
[17:37:28] siba: To me, you were spamming the chat near constant.
[17:37:39] siba: And I kinda did warn you, when I said quit loving spamming.
[17:37:40] [L]: hashtagging isn't spam, it's just talking.
[17:37:47] [L]: You didn't warn me about A BAN
[17:38:05] siba: It's irritating stuff talking.
[17:38:21] [L]: Can I ask
[17:38:31] [L]: How long have you been both playing Zapk's server and been admined.
[17:38:49] siba: A while.
[17:38:51] siba: Why does it matter.
[17:39:04] [L]: Just please tell me, a week, a month?
[17:39:06] [L]: more...?
[17:39:14] siba: I don't know.
[17:39:47] siba: I had no reason to remember how long I spend as an admin here.
[17:39:51] [L]: What you've done is admin abuse. Now unban me, I'll let Zeblote and Zapk sort it out.
[17:40:00] [L]: But for me
[17:40:07] [L]: That is a different subject.
[17:40:45] siba: Explain how I abused my admin.
[17:40:54] siba: And maybe I'll reconsider.
[17:41:28] [L]: What I did isn't classed as spam, regardless of what you think (so please don't go on and on about how it was spam) it's classed as a form of speech.
[17:41:33] [L]: and it was meant to be a joke, dude.
[17:41:47] siba: I don't consider spamming up the server a joke.
[17:42:11] siba: You bring down the quality of the server by doing so, scaring off players who don't care to listen to your 'joke'.
[17:42:28] [L]: What players did I "scare"?
[17:42:56] [L]: You bring down the quality of servers by banning people you dislike .
[17:43:07] siba: I didn't ban you because I dislike you.
[17:43:17] [L]: Siba just tell me, who did I "scare" off
[17:43:19] siba: I banned you at first for spamming, and joining in on Zeblote's stuff.
[17:43:31] siba: Until the player I am talking to corrected that.
[17:43:37] siba: I rebanned you for a day for the spam.
[17:43:38] [L]: Who did I scare off
[17:43:51] siba: You don't need to scare off a player at that very moment.
[17:43:57] [L]: Siba...
[17:43:59] [L]: who
[17:44:00] [L]: did
[17:44:01] [L]: I
[17:44:02] [L]: scare
[17:44:02] [L]: off
[17:44:08] siba: You keep the population of the server down when you spam the server.
[17:44:12] siba: Less people stick around.
[17:44:14] [L]: Siba
[17:44:31] [L]: Most on the server were in on my twitter jokes, now who did I scare off
[17:44:57] siba: I couldn't give less of a stuff, you bring the quality down for the players that do not.
[17:45:08] siba: Which is the players we want to attract.
[17:45:15] siba: Not someone who is going to join in on the spam WITH you.
[17:45:15] [L]: Siba will you answer my question
[17:45:22] [L]: siba
[17:45:29] siba: I answered your loving questions.
[17:45:32] siba: Every one of them.
[17:45:34] siba: Goodbye.
[17:45:36] * You have blocked [L].

[Conservative]

My defence; Armageddon messages me over RTBC about admin abuse, I investigate, he sends me screenshots with solid proof, I try everything in my power at this point to remove him.

His incriminating evidence consists of him treating a player like stuff over teaming, and allowing the rest of the server to gang up on him, in wake of this, he changed his name and rejoined the server to try to avoid it all, as well as destroying parts of the round builds, disrupting gameplay, "because he can".

He failed as an admin to protect an innocent player, allowing his gaming experience to be damaged.

Datablock is alleged to have been doing just as bad as him towards giddy but I had no evidence on that.

I banned two spammers that were filling the chat with hashtag spam, they call jokes, for treating the player like stuff along with Zeblote and spamming, which I reduced to a single day after Armageddon told me they were not involved in treating the player like stuff.

[Apex]

No surprise here. Siba has always been a power hungry, abusive admin who can't control himself. I honestly have no idea why he's still admin at that server. He's an starfish.

[Conservative]

No surprise here. Siba has always been a power hungry, abusive admin who can't control himself. I honestly have no idea why he's still admin at that server. He's an starfish.

That's nice, ignore all the evidence provided above and jump to the conclusion that I must just be a power hungry starfish.

I do what I think is necessary to keep the server civilized and popular.

[BlockoBlocko]

Siba, didn't you say you quit adminstration on this server?

[Conservative]

Siba, didn't you say you quit adminstration on this server?

I returned.

[Gizmo.]

I returned.

Returning never goes well.

[Deve111²]

And I got de-admin for a simple unban?

Geez..