Author Topic: Siba: The abusive admin on a banning spree. (On Zapk's Rising Lava server.)  (Read 16861 times)

Keep in mind besides the rules in the server, I have no guideline as an admin, Zapk never set up anything like that so it is purely based on my judgement.

that's not good administration lol. that's just you not being able to be the bigger person.
If the person seems like he has an argument that would just worsen if I were to get rid of the guy, I am hesitant to get rid of him.

But I will not argue for hours in the public chat, only RTBC.

The banner goes on all content I post, apologies for that. The information however isn't one sided, it explains most of the story.

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It seems that there is more drama about my banner than the actual person I've posted about. The reason I have made a topic about Siba is because he is banning super admins for doing their job (fixing up maps, keeping players from teaming; to make the game more fun for others.) Then banning anyone who questions his actions, using them of siding with the super admins. Now lets go OVER siba's data and actions.

He ban me with the reason: Treating players like stuff, constant stuff talking, joining in with Zeblote's treatment of players.

Firstly I'd like to know what players I treated like stuff, all I did was question Siba's actions to banning Zeblote.

Secondly I was confused as to what "stuff talking" is, that's why I asked Siba in the IRC chat, he is referring to me
using Twitter talk (@'s and #'s all the time) as a joke, (everyone on the server was aware it was a joke, maybe not Siba though)
he classed this as spam. It obviously wasn't spam, since I wasn't spamming it into the chat bar every three seconds. However in fairness, if Siba believed that this was actually spam, then fair enough (this is the only thing I can side with Siba on.)

Thirdly, I have no clue whatsoever as to what "joining in with Zeblote's treatment of players." is all about. All I did was question Siba's actions to banning Zeblote. I have no clue who this Giddyspace011 person is, (why I said "who is giddy?" in the IRC chat) I don't believe I ever saw him on the server, and if him and Zeblote did argue, then it would have been something that happened before I arrived. So this is another invalid accusation that Siba has thrown at me.

Finally, Siba accuses me of "scaring off" players for using my Twitter talk in the server:

[17:41:47] siba: I don't consider spamming up the server a joke.
[17:42:11] siba: You bring down the quality of the server by doing so, scaring off players who don't care to listen to your 'joke'.
[17:42:28] [L]: What players did I "scare"?
[17:42:56] [L]: You bring down the quality of servers by banning people you dislike .
[17:43:07] siba: I didn't ban you because I dislike you.
[17:43:17] [L]: Siba just tell me, who did I "scare" off
[17:43:19] siba: I banned you at first for spamming, and joining in on Zeblote's stuff.
[17:43:31] siba: Until the player I am talking to corrected that.
[17:43:37] siba: I rebanned you for a day for the spam.
[17:43:38] [L]: Who did I scare off
[17:43:51] siba: You don't need to scare off a player at that very moment.
[17:43:57] [L]: Siba...
[17:43:59] [L]: who
[17:44:00] [L]: did
[17:44:01] [L]: I
[17:44:02] [L]: scare
[17:44:02] [L]: off
[17:44:08] siba: You keep the population of the server down when you spam the server.
[17:44:12] siba: Less people stick around.
[17:44:14] [L]: Siba
[17:44:31] [L]: Most on the server were in on my twitter jokes, now who did I scare off
[17:44:57] siba: I couldn't give less of a stuff, you bring the quality down for the players that do not.
[17:45:08] siba: Which is the players we want to attract.
[17:45:15] siba: Not someone who is going to join in on the spam WITH you.
[17:45:15] [L]: Siba will you answer my question
[17:45:22] [L]: siba
[17:45:29] siba: I answered your loving questions.
[17:45:32] siba: Every one of them.
[17:45:34] siba: Goodbye.
[17:45:36] * You have blocked [L].

Obviously that sounds like complete bullstuff, what I can make out of this is that Siba thinks I ended up making people leave the server because of how annoying I am. When I asked him who I "scared off" he completely avoids the question as you can see above, I have to ask him several times until I can get an answer out of him. When I do get an answer out of him he says "Every one of them." Is this meant to mean I "scared off" every player on the server? I don't even need to tell you all how ridiculous that is. I would have questioned Siba about that, however he left the conversation when he realized what he said was hilariously dumb.

All and all, the only reason I drama'd this guy, was because he banned another admin, without checking with the host first, then ban me simply for questioning his actions.

siba is a power hungry starfish that will ban everyone on the spot if he disagrees with his ideas. He is also almost never on this server yet dares to ban other admins for doing their job.

idk. it seems to me like siba will jump to ban anyone that could possibly be damaging someone's experience. also i don't understand why breaking parts of the build, especially since zapk had previously been ok with it, is now "abuse". he's just changing how the game is played. if he really wanted to abuse his admin, he could forget with the eval, or stop the minigame, or clear the bricks or something.

also everyone is an starfish on the internet. he'll find when you ban someone for treating players like stuff, eventually you'll only have 7 players.

It seems that there is more drama about my banner than the actual person I've posted about. The reason I have made a topic about Siba is because he is banning super admins for doing their job (fixing up maps, keeping players from teaming; to make the game more fun for others.) Then banning anyone who questions his actions, using them of siding with the super admins. Now lets go OVER siba's data and actions.

"fixing up maps", destroying parts of the map is not fixing them, getting Zapk to upload a new version of the save with changes made to them is fixing them, destroying parts of the map disrupts the gameplay.

"keeping players from teaming" this is not against the rules, and Zeblote's way of taking care of this 'problem' consisted of calling the player a noob and making fun of him along with others.

Zapk appears to agree with me on everything above.

He ban me with the reason: Treating players like stuff, constant stuff talking, joining in with Zeblote's treatment of players.

Firstly I'd like to know what players I treated like stuff, all I did was question Siba's actions to banning Zeblote.

Secondly I was confused as to what "stuff talking" is, that's why I asked Siba in the IRC chat, he is referring to me
using Twitter talk (@'s and #'s all the time) as a joke, (everyone on the server was aware it was a joke, maybe not Siba though)
he classed this as spam. It obviously wasn't spam, since I wasn't spamming it into the chat bar every three seconds. However in fairness, if Siba believed that this was actually spam, then fair enough (this is the only thing I can side with Siba on.)

Thirdly, I have no clue whatsoever as to what "joining in with Zeblote's treatment of players." is all about. All I did was question Siba's actions to banning Zeblote. I have no clue who this Giddyspace011 person is, (why I said "who is giddy?" in the IRC chat) I don't believe I ever saw him on the server, and if him and Zeblote did argue, then it would have been something that happened before I arrived. So this is another invalid accusation that Siba has thrown at me.

[17:24:01] [L]: Who's giddy?
[17:24:43] [L]: We'll see what Zapk has to see about this, regardless.
[17:25:36] [L]: Zapk worked too hard on the server to have stuffheads like you go and ruin it
[17:25:49] siba: "Was [L] in on treating giddy like stuff."
[17:25:53] siba: "oh no he wasnt"
[17:25:57] siba: "he was the one spamming hash tag stuff"
[17:26:03] siba: Your ban time has been reduced to one day.
[17:26:09] [L]: Who are you even quoting?
[17:27:38] [L]: what do you think Zapk thinks of you?
[17:28:05] siba: What does it matter?
[17:28:11] siba: I'm trying to do my best here.
[17:28:42] siba: Zeblote was treating giddy like stuff, Datablock allegedly was as well, oddity and you were spamming hashtag stuff.
[17:28:55] [L]: Banning players without a warning, and banning super admins for no reason is against admin rules
[17:29:15] siba: I banned him for perfectly valid loving reasons.
[17:29:15] [L]: The wisest thing for you to do now, so you don't get into even more trouble would to be unban Zeblote and me
[17:29:26] siba: Every single reason I placed in his ban reason, he commited.
[17:29:51] siba: I'm reducing your ban to a single day, possibly even less for the spam.
[17:29:52] [L]: That DOESNT MATTER
[17:29:55] siba: It was near constant.
[17:30:06] [L]: You need to give warnings for maybe me, fair enough if that was spam
[17:30:07] siba: L I don't have a guideline to follow here.

I admit here it was a mistake to ban you for both the time and reasons stated because of how much stuff I was dealing with at once.

You seem to acknowledge it, yet you put up the argument again as if you have no idea why I did so and I just won't tell you anything.

Finally, Siba accuses me of "scaring off" players for using my Twitter talk in the server:

[17:41:47] siba: I don't consider spamming up the server a joke.
[17:42:11] siba: You bring down the quality of the server by doing so, scaring off players who don't care to listen to your 'joke'.
[17:42:28] [L]: What players did I "scare"?
[17:42:56] [L]: You bring down the quality of servers by banning people you dislike .
[17:43:07] siba: I didn't ban you because I dislike you.
[17:43:17] [L]: Siba just tell me, who did I "scare" off
[17:43:19] siba: I banned you at first for spamming, and joining in on Zeblote's stuff.
[17:43:31] siba: Until the player I am talking to corrected that.
[17:43:37] siba: I rebanned you for a day for the spam.
[17:43:38] [L]: Who did I scare off
[17:43:51] siba: You don't need to scare off a player at that very moment.
[17:43:57] [L]: Siba...
[17:43:59] [L]: who
[17:44:00] [L]: did
[17:44:01] [L]: I
[17:44:02] [L]: scare
[17:44:02] [L]: off
[17:44:08] siba: You keep the population of the server down when you spam the server.
[17:44:12] siba: Less people stick around.
[17:44:14] [L]: Siba
[17:44:31] [L]: Most on the server were in on my twitter jokes, now who did I scare off
[17:44:57] siba: I couldn't give less of a stuff, you bring the quality down for the players that do not.
[17:45:08] siba: Which is the players we want to attract.
[17:45:15] siba: Not someone who is going to join in on the spam WITH you.
[17:45:15] [L]: Siba will you answer my question
[17:45:22] [L]: siba
[17:45:29] siba: I answered your loving questions.
[17:45:32] siba: Every one of them.
[17:45:34] siba: Goodbye.
[17:45:36] * You have blocked [L].

Obviously that sounds like complete bullstuff, what I can make out of this is that Siba thinks I ended up making people leave the server because of how annoying I am. When I asked him who I "scared off" he completely avoids the question as you can see above, I have to ask him several times until I can get an answer out of him. When I do get an answer out of him he says "Every one of them." Is this meant to mean I "scared off" every player on the server? I don't even need to tell you all how ridiculous that is. I would have questioned Siba about that, however he left the conversation when he realized what he said was hilariously dumb.

A player spamming a popular server will drain that server of players easily if an admin does not step in, I told you to stop spamming at one point in the server and you simply said it was not spam and continued.

You don't have to mash your keyboard for something to be counted as spam.

also everyone is an starfish on the internet. he'll find when you ban someone for treating players like stuff, eventually you'll only have 7 players.
stuffty excuse to allow stuffty players to continue doing stuffty things.

Why aren't you on the server administrating it if you're such a great admin?

Keep in mind besides the rules in the server, I have no guideline as an admin, Zapk never set up anything like that so it is purely based on my judgement.
Why do you think that you're allowed to make up your own rules but I am not?

Why aren't you on the server administrating it if you're such a great admin?
What does that have to do with anything?

I have to be there every waking moment of the day now?

Why do you think that you're allowed to make up your own rules but I am not?
You treated the player like stuff for something that is mainly accepted in the server, and from what I've seen, doesn't exactly change the gameplay much.

stuffty excuse to allow stuffty players to continue doing stuffty things.
i'm not talking about people who stuff on everyone 24/7. i'm talking about the guys that will make a careless comment about somebody or something. most people on the internet will do it without thinking. you're being overly sensitive and your incessant banning is what is going to make the server unpopular.

also good job ignoring the rest of my post. how is breaking parts of the build abusive? if zapk would later remove those parts in a restart, it's just a temporary solution, isn't it?

also i'd argue that preventing teams is important; when the best players on the server team up, it just makes the rest of the people want to leave.

You treated the player like stuff for something that is mainly accepted in the server, and from what I've seen, doesn't exactly change the gameplay much.
Please explain how I was "treating the player like stuff".

What does that have to do with anything?

I have to be there every waking moment of the day now?
Yes you do after you banned the most active admin. Noone is there administrating the server.

I believe siba has a right to be mad if Zobelote keeps tampering with the gameplay and with players who decide to play in a certain way.

I feel the game should be free to be played however a player feels like, and maps should not change to an admins convenience.

Zeblote* don't correct me please.

I believe siba has a right to be mad if Zeblote keeps tampering with the gameplay and with players who decide to play in a certain way.

I feel the game should be free to be played however a player feels like, and maps should not change to an admins convenience.
siba has no right to ban another super admin over a trivial issue that the host was ok with.