Betelgeuse and Ravencroft

[SirLancelot7]

/support

They both seem like immature children who want to intentionally troll and ruin the fun of other players.  I don't care if friendly fire was on, if you're mature and you respect the other players, you're not going yo slaughter your teammates for fun.

Additionally, it can be assumed they do this often, since they have separate planned names for trolling.

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[CharlesSpeaking]

LOL

so who's still supporting ravencroft's side, please raise your hands (and then smash your computer or something)

what does that have to do at all with this thread primarily about teamkilling

the thread is primarily about what the people did, but what the people did is only the reason why they're in this drama. this is another reason.

/support

They both seem like immature children who want to intentionally troll and ruin the fun of other players.  I don't care if friendly fire was on, if you're mature and you respect the other players, you're not going yo slaughter your teammates for fun.

Additionally, it can be assumed they do this often, since they have separate planned names for trolling.

remember, if you ever inch towards not supporting, check out that video

[Blockzillahead]

Thats like saying a lot of people liked it when that guy kept commiting Self Delete on the basketball server (Hint: they didnt) and it doesnt seem like many people liked when they were getting team killed.

Ravencroft isnt even a teenager hes an adult lol hes just being a jerk

I'm not familiar with that Basketball experience but I'd say no. I'm talking about the person doing the team-killing though, not the people being team-killed. The person doing it won't stop, because it's amusing to him. A lot of people find it amusing to just team-kill and break the rules with loop holes. They won't stop any time soon just because it's morally wrong or w/e, they will do it until the host gets off his ass to fix the loop hole.

You find an iPhone 5 on the ground, just sitting there, and you make a decision; A. Keep the phone or B. Try to find the owner. Most people would just keep the phone, for their own gain, or in this case 'amusement'. But at the same time you have a FBI squad sitting in a bush, that purposely put the phone on the ground and are ready to pursue you and take you to jail for 'stealing' that phone from it's rightful owner. I mean who do you blame? The FBI for setting you up in the world's most ridiculous frame trap ever? Or the person who decided to keep the lost phone for his own benefit?

common sense, logical reasoning, self-control

the ability to not do something you know is wrong just because you can do it is hopefully a common ability
no "bad boys" pls

Common sense? Not as common as you think.
Logical reasoning? On a game made to have fun and entertain yourself?
Self-control? How does this apply? If I do something because it's fun to me, I'll do it because I'm trying to have fun anyway, it's not like I am restraining myself from having fun on a game.

[SlayerZ99]

I'm not familiar with that Basketball experience but I'd say no. I'm talking about the person doing the team-killing though, not the people being team-killed. The person doing it won't stop, because it's amusing to him. A lot of people find it amusing to just team-kill and break the rules with loop holes. They won't stop any time soon just because it's morally wrong or w/e, they will do it until the host gets off his ass to fix the loop hole.

So they're trolling.

This is the worst argument ever lol

[SirLancelot7]

Holy crap the video lololol what a badmin.  Looks like he has a pretty massive temper and gets really mad when anyone points out his flaws.

[kanew2000]

yes I'm a misguided idiot and have been in the past and don't expect it to end any time soon
that video was given to me after I made the thread; someone thought it relevant and I put it to use.

raven, you were aiming directly at the door waiting for people on your team to come out
I can however say that yeah the spawn rooms are really cramped but that apparently wasn't the cause

what does that have to do at all with this thread primarily about teamkilling

who said it was about teamkilling
it's primarily about the discussion of betel and raven but I've never seen betel post so raven speaks for himself here, not much to say on betel's side

LOL

that's so raven

[CharlesSpeaking]

bla no support bla ravencroft is my hero bla etcetc

check the video out though

also i wouldn't keep the phone

Self-control? How does this apply? If I do something because it's fun to me, I'll do it because I'm trying to have fun anyway, it's not like I am restraining myself from having fun on a game.

including trolling?

also don't say "yes" because then it would be on the verge of admittance

if you know of a glitch that you know will make other players upset but you would be "humored," would you abuse this glitch?

[Aduioa]

[Aduioa]

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That's exactly how I felt when I was in the server when it happened ^

[Blockzillahead]

So they're trolling.

This is the worst argument ever lol

My point being that they won't stop doing it just because it's 'morally' wrong. Yes they are trolling. They are trying to amuse themselves. What exactly did you think I was pointing out? I don't like ravencroft that much but the situation here is ridiculous. If you don't want people to abuse the said loop hole, don't have it there on purpose. You can't give an escaped convict a gun, then later act all surprised and get mad at him for going on a Flash Mob spree. The gun shouldn't have been given to him in the first place, an easily preventable situation, just like ticking off the "Friendly Fire" option.

check the video out though

also i wouldn't keep the phone including trolling?

also don't say "yes" because then it would be on the verge of admittance

if you know of a glitch that you know will make other players upset but you would be "humored," would you abuse this glitch?

I did, it doesn't apply in the same context here because the admin abuse can't relate to team-killing, other than that being breaking the rules. Team-killing is not as serious. I'm not arguing for Raven's freedom or something. I'm arguing that it's the host's fault for purposely letting people break the rules then later acting all mad.

What's with this "bla no support blal ravencroft is my hero bla ectect"? Do you have some sort of grudge against him that's causing you to look down on me for standing my ground? Also I'm pretty sure you might be lying on that phone part, deep down you know you want to keep it but to justify your point you want to appear morally sustained in front of others.

Trolling? Pissing others off on purpose is not fun to me personally, but others will beg to differ.

Not me, but many will, and won't stop just to check up if it's ok with you or me or anyone.

[KickFlow]

They both seem like immature children who want to intentionally troll and ruin the fun of other players.

But then OP banned them and ruined Ravencrofts fun! That's not fair!
Friendly fire was part of the game, and so Raven was using it, how dare you ban him and ruin HIS fun you biased jerk! :(

[CharlesSpeaking]

My point being that they won't stop doing it just because it's 'morally' wrong. Yes they are trolling. They are trying to amuse themselves. What exactly did you think I was pointing out?

well, you didn't act like you supported the drama and, like, trolling is dramaworthy

admittance to trolling is forum-ban worthy so like

I don't like ravencroft that much but the situation here is ridiculous. If you don't want people to abuse the said loop hole, don't have it there on purpose. You can't give an escaped convict a gun, then later act all surprised and get mad at him for going on a Flash Mob spree.

so after you said ravencroft was trolling, you're also comparing him to an escaped convict? cool. also, you can't get mad at someone for going on a Flash Mob spree because it's expected? that really makes no sense.

I did, it doesn't apply in the same context here because the admin abuse can't relate to team-killing, other than that being breaking the rules. Team-killing is not as serious. I'm not arguing for Raven's freedom or something. I'm arguing that it's the host's fault for purposely letting people break the rules then later acting all mad.

i've mentioned why i support the drama above. if ravencroft were drama'd for this video (which he probably was before) would you support?

What's with this "bla no support blal ravencroft is my hero bla ectect"? Do you have some sort of grudge against him that's causing you to look down on me for standing my ground?

yeah that was a bit much, sorry

Also I'm pretty sure you might be lying on that phone part, deep down you know you want to keep it but to justify your point you want to appear morally sustained in front of others.

neither side can be proven, we can only both have our opinions about what would happen

Trolling? Pissing others off on purpose is not fun to me personally, but others will beg to differ.

Not me, but many will, and won't stop just to check up if it's ok with you or me or anyone.

and i'll support dramas against them along with various other people

[kanew2000]

Fun fact: I didn't ban them. Wasn't even admin.

[Blockzillahead]

also, you can't get mad at someone for going on a Flash Mob spree because it's expected? that really makes no sense

Yes it does, you can't purposely lead someone to do something bad, then act surprised and get mad at them even though you purposely let them do it when it was easy to prevent in the first place.

if ravencroft were drama'd for this video (which he probably was before) would you support?

Yes, but this is thread is about team-killing, not admin abuse. Two different contexts.

neither side can be proven, we can only both have our opinions about what would happenand

Ok

i'll support dramas against them along with various other people

I will not if the host let's them troll on purpose by placing a loop hole that is easily abused and found by anyone. The host is equally or even more at fault if the loop hole can be easily prevented with a check of a box.

Fun fact: I didn't ban them. Wasn't even admin.

This fact was not fun.

[Aduioa]

i've mentioned why i support the drama above. if ravencroft were drama'd for this video (which he probably was before) would you support?

This video was made TODAY.