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I don't read books.  I find them unnecessary and time consuming.


OT: It looks alright. If anything I guess it'll add to your gallery list if you have one.

Easy tiger. Actually I was completely sarcastic and did not exclaim myself of being superior to anyone.

On a further note, are you autistic? Don't read books? Unnecessary? What kind of planet do you come from.

I really don't, except for those few books required in English class.  I find them boring, a large waste of time, and unnecessary.  People read books to get information delivered in a creative way.  I don't like the wasted space of creativity, and would therefore prefer a graphic or straight, bulleted facts.  Saying something is wrong with me is not a good way to deal with situations.  Just because someone learns differently does not mean I have a mental disorder, nor does it mean I was raised on another planet, completely devoid of anything textual.



OT: It looks alright. If anything I guess it'll add to your gallery list if you have one.

I don't like reading fiction.  The only books I have ever read for fun in the past were books about science or published journals of individuals, like Einstein and Newton (translated of course).  Therefore, reducing the creative input that is used in books to create flow, which limits the amount of actual information that can be learned in a period of time, and emphasizing the facts is how I like to read.  Where some people enjoy reading about wizards or vampires and ware wolves (which does very little for one's future), I enjoy reading science.  It's the same thing as one person liking football and another liking tennis.

stopped reading there, you are an idiot and it would be in everyone's best interests to disregard everything you say

I could say the same about you.

You are a pretentious starfish and it would be in everyone's best interest to disregard every ostentatious word you say.  Opinion is not fact - neither yours nor mine.  I find books unnecessary for me, obviously you don't.  Books are, in fact, neither of these, because necessity can only ever be defined by opinion.

Here is a great example if you still don't get it.

Idk if you are religious, but since it is a common example, it is well understood.

Christians (the proper, by definition ones that is - "those that believe in Yahweh, the creator of everything" Christians, not the "believe or go to hell" Christians) believe in a god because they need that security.  Atheists don't need it.  It is necessary for Christians and unnecessary for atheist.  Neither of those groups are wrong, no matter how much both groups like to contend otherwise (I am an atheist myself, so I know).

How about a simpler example.

Bobby wears a blue shirt, Fred wears a red shirt.  Bobby accuses Fred of blasphemy against blue, Fred says no.  Both are right and wrong.  Red is just another color, like blue.  It is just another way of showing color.  But, he is also not wearing blue, and betrayed blue-kind everywhere.  Blasphemer!

Unnecessary and time consuming, the forget bro

Unnecessary and time consuming, the forget bro

When reviewing for a chapter test/quiz and are pressed for time, do you read the entire chapter in the textbook that the test/quiz is on, or do you study your notes/online notes/PowerPoint your teacher made?  You do the latter, because the former is time consuming.  I put "pressed for time" at the beginning to account for the differences between my way of life and others'.

You play Blockland, don't even talk about wasting time...

I don't like reading fiction.  The only books I have ever read for fun in the past were books about science or published journals of individuals, like Einstein and Newton (translated of course).  Therefore, reducing the creative input that is used in books to create flow, which limits the amount of actual information that can be learned in a period of time, and emphasizing the facts is how I like to read.  Where some people enjoy reading about wizards or vampires and ware wolves (which does very little for one's future), I enjoy reading science.  It's the same thing as one person liking football and another liking tennis.

I can tell just from the bolded print that you're a bore to be around. Life isn't about being serious all of the time, devoting 100% of your time and energy into preparing for your future, and never being creative.
If you seriously think that a list of facts is more thought-provoking and interesting than a thrilling and detailed novel, you must have some sort of issue.

I don't know who taught you that life is just about a bunch of facts, but it isn't true. The world is beautiful and you cannot possibly enjoy the world's beauty to its full extent without being the least bit creative.

Good luck also, because you won't make it anywhere in the real world if you just look at images and graphs without reading what the image/graph is about.
You act like you either ONLY learn by visuals or ONLY learn by text when really, you should be doing both.


incidentally i'm not reading your posts, they are unnecessary, time consuming, and most importantly incomprehensibly stupid

incidentally i'm not reading your posts, they are unnecessary, time consuming, and most importantly incomprehensibly stupid

That's okay.  I write for the people who actually have things to say, such as this guy:

You play Blockland, don't even talk about wasting time...

lol'd

And this guy:

I can tell just from the bolded print that you're a bore to be around. Life isn't about being serious all of the time, devoting 100% of your time and energy into preparing for your future, and never being creative.
If you seriously think that a list of facts is more thought-provoking and interesting than a thrilling and detailed novel, you must have some sort of issue.

I don't know who taught you that life is just about a bunch of facts, but it isn't true. The world is beautiful and you cannot possibly enjoy the world's beauty to its full extent without being the least bit creative.

Good luck also, because you won't make it anywhere in the real world if you just look at images and graphs without reading what the image/graph is about.
You act like you either ONLY learn by visuals or ONLY learn by text when really, you should be doing both.

(summary at the bottom if you want to apply my way of learning, which you shouldn't, as you'd see why if you would read the entirety of what I wrote)

Responses to your post by paragraph:

1) Learning is not seriousness.  Causation is not correlation.  A school environment is serious, and you learn there.  This is where the misinterpretation of learning as serious comes from.  Learning can be engaging and fun, so why not combine learning with fun everyday?  If an activity is currently fun, but provides nothing for the future, but could be changed to teach a lesson or give helpful information, why not change it?

In my classes at school, nearly all of which are the higher-leveled classes, people like science and history - they like knowing facts - it's just what we all like.  We live in one of the most demanding areas in the country, as says this article, among others.  We have grown up with the feeling to need to gain as much knowledge as possible whenever we can.  Everyone has different views and interests, and we all like to talk about these.  We enjoy talking the facts, and are quite intrigued, not bored, by these facts.

Also, preparation is not the same as garnering knowledge.  Preparation is planning for the future, laying out steps for learning to succeed in the future.  Increasing knowledge without preparation is what I enjoy.  This involves sporadic quantities of knowledge learned "just 'cuz".  One of my favorite Youtube subscriptions is a channel called Vsauce, who's main head (Michael Stevens) starts off talking about one cool fact, and slowly transitions from there to other, slightly related facts.  In fact, in one of his videos, he once said that the people who watch his videos come there to learn something they didn't expect to learn.

1.5?) Funky kind-of-paragraph.  Yes, a list of ideas /is/ more thought provoking than a thrilling (opinionated adjective) and detailed novel.

With a list of facts, one can question why the fact is like that, and think about the answer to that question.  With a novel, taking fiction for example, you can't question the reason for anything beyond "What will happen next?"  There is no thought necessary in a good novel, because the vocabulary is supposed to paint (inciting feelings of ease and lack of effort on the reader's part) an image in the reader's head.  There isn't much thought beyond "What color is maroon?" when the author describes something.

2) Creativity does not specifically make the world beautiful.  Creativity is someone's spin or interpretation of a fact.  "The gentle, warm breeze caressed the young lady's soft, pale skin" is pretty sounding and all, but I just don't find it appealing.

For me, the beauty of the world isn't found in a book.  It is found in the facts of the world.  I find it beautiful that the surface of the Earth is 75% covered by water, that there are hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of arid deserts and freezing mountains, tundra unsuitable for human living, and yet we can fit seven billion people on the remaining land, with a projected twelve billion population max within the century.

That's beautiful, not some person's attempt to create emotions of beauty in our minds.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not the mind.

I'll turn the tables on you.  You are driving with your parents in the car.  Because you like books, you are reading in the back.  You are staring at pages of black-typed words filling your head with stories of magic wizards and vampires and werewolves fighting over a girl (never read Twilight, but I think that is what the book is about), whereas I am looking out the window, staring at trees and mountains and birds and people.  I am recalling the facts, that convergent plate motion created those mountains over the millennia, that trees create pollen that wafts through the air to create seeds or nuts, which in turn fall and create trees.  I am seeing the beauty of nature, of the world.  What are you doing, staring at a book?  The world isn't in a book, the world is in the world.  To understand the beauty of the world, you have to experience it.  To experience it, you must know about it.  To learn about it, you can read a book, or you can look at the facts.  Which creates more intrigue with the world, a book (nonfiction) that gives you the answers, or the list of facts that leaves you wanting more (which you most verily end up seeking)?

3) A good graph, meaning one that has been properly labeled and keyed, can be understood without reading a description.  These good graphs don't exist in the school setting, but they do in the professional world.  I will succeed because I can quickly glance at these graphs, understand them, and be on to the next one by the time you have finished reading the description and are starting to look at the colors in the key.

I'll actually do quite well because I was raised on your method of learning - read every word of every page of a textbook, read every nook and cranny for information because more will be magically stored there.  But, I also learned a new way.  I'll have the ability to switch to either method whenever I need to because I am practiced in both.

When I was young and in elementary school, I was never one of the best students.  I just couldn't get the information.  Around fifth grade, I read about speed reading on the Internet.  This gave me the idea that shortcuts could be taken to glean the information from an article in less time than it would take to actually read it all.  One thing lead to another and I end up getting consistent C's on graded assessments.  I was shortcutting too much.  Over time, I learned the exact level of shortcutting, different methods for speed reading, methods for picking out buzz words from an article, and my grades reached A's.  Then Junior year hit, I was infected with Senioritis from my brother, and the entire way of learning allowed me to apply very little effort to actual schooling.  I haven't taken notes in years, I haven't read a textbook for the purpose of studying since 10th grade, and I haven't dipped below a B+ since then.



I hated writing the entirety of this post because I was forced to use a style of writing that I don't like, but that everyone seems to use on these forums.  That style is of an aggressive, opinionated, extremist (embellishing the writer's opinion and knocking the opponent's), assumptive sort.  I hate this, it causes people to go ape-stuff crazy over what was written.  The absolute purpose of it is to try to degrade someone and their opinions.  I also don't like talking about myself because it seems self-centered, but when people start making assumptions, creating false images, or completely stuff on me, I have to take action.

I again stress that just because I have a different way of learning that you doesn't mean I have a disability.  There is NOTHING wrong with me nor anyone who is different than you.  Would you like me to compare you to the Christian fundamentalists, who believe that their was the right way and that everyone else is wrong and will die in hell?  Are you already a Christian fundamentalist?  Okay, how about an Islamic fundamentalist, aka extremist, aka Anti-American terrorist?  They believe their way is the only way and that everyone else that doesn't go their way HAVE TO burn in hell.  How about the national socialists in Germany before and during WW2?  Riddler believed that the "Aryan" race was the ONLY race that could live (blonde hair, blue eyes are not Aryans btw.  Riddler was a dumbass.), everyone else should burn in an oven, then burn in hell.

Your way is not the right way, neither is mine.  It is the way that works for our individual selves.  You should not force it upon anyone else, nor should you discredit someone else's way.  Whatever works for someone might not work for another, but works very well for the first individual.



Here is the summary:

1) No, I'm not boring.
1.5) Yes, facts provoke more thought than novels
2) You went off topic here, but the world isn't in a book either.  The world is out there, and the facts can be used to find the typically unnoticeable phenomena prevalent throughout the world
3) Nope, I'll do just fine.  In fact, I'll do better, because I was raised using the method you (and all of the school systems) like to use /and/ learned to learn from graphics, so I have /both/ methods under my belt, and I could switch to the other if ever necessary (which it won't every be).  I covered the development of my method throughout my life.

Don't apply my method for yourself.  Your method works for you, so use it.



And yes, what I have written here is indeed longer than the English essay I am supposed to be writing right now.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 09:35:51 PM by Gen. Hothauser »

i think you need to go outside for a little


I like the trees.
Sometimes I bookmark gallery threads simply because I like the tree design and want to use it as inspiration later.

yea i make sure trees look as good as possible because nobody ever does trees good so its like my personal goal to make good ones
this will be updated soonish with the download, but for now heres some pictures of an upcoming project




And yes, what I have written here is indeed longer than the English essay I am supposed to be writing right now.

Woah, hold up there.

I don't know if you get the impression that I am an idiot or something ("In my classes at school, nearly all of which are the higher-leveled classes, people like science and history - they like knowing facts - it's just what we all like."), but I'm at the top of my class as well.

I love learning, and I believe that people should always strive to learn more.
I completely disagree with the statement that no thought is necessary by the reader while enjoying a good novel. Also, is the ability for words to paint a picture in the reader's head, not "thinking"? Everyone interprets story settings differently because everyone thinks differently while reading the book.

Since when is creativity someone's spin off of a fact? Creativity is not based around facts.

The parents-in-a-car story makes no sense. Just because I love to read does not mean that I spend all of my hours reading and not admiring nature. You're over thinking beauty. To find something beautiful, one should not have to think, "Erosion must have occurred thousands of years ago for the mountains to have acquired it's peculiar shape."

I am taught in both ways as well, and I also take the time to enjoy things such as music, art, dance, cuisine, etc.
Also, it is a little ironic that you claim that discrediting someone for their opinion is wrong yet you have done the exact same thing in your post.

All I'm saying is that the world is too diverse and intricate to simply look at things in terms of facts. Think of music, for example. The artist doesn't create a song based off of facts, but off of true emotions, as with dance and art.
I don't support the whole no-note-taking thing that you have going on there, and I do believe that if you did take notes every once in a while then you would make all A's, but that's just me.

Basically, I understand where you're coming from, and I wont try to change you for what you do, but I would recommend to live in the present. Sometimes you don't have to think of WHY things are like they are-- you should be able to just enjoy it without trying to come up with an explanation and miss the beauty while doing so.


Disregarding your first statement, listing by paragraphs:

1) I am not trying to state your intelligence as sub-par.  I was merely trying convey the message that the people in my school are more concerned with increasing their knowledge when at all possible, and how that correlates with the higher standard of learning we have here.  Also, just because you are at the top of your class doesn't mean everyone else in your school is too, which would be impossible by definition, so you wouldn't have the urge to gain knowledge in such great volumes as we here, who are all overly competitive.

Also, for clarification, I never said I was at the top of my class.  In fact, I am not even close.  There are probably 100-150 people with higher GPAs and SAT scores than me.  Nearly all of them are Asian though, so the whole kendo-stick-to-the-ass thing might skew it in their favor.

2) If there is any interpretation assumption done by the reader of a book at all, then the writer of the book did not do his/her job - that being to create the images for the reader.  Interpretation of text is done by the reader when there are holes where sensory images should have been.  Void of these holes, the image is clear. 

3) Creativity is always based on facts, no matter how random or unbelievable the product is.  There is always some underlying fact or truth behind all creativity.  Dr. Seuss was creative.  He wrote about Whos in Whoville, red fish and blue fish, etc.  But there is always fact in his stories.  The cat in the hat stands on the ground because of gravity, birds can fly in the air because there is a medium for it to fly through, trees grow towards the sky to capture light and water.  These are all facts, and all of them can be found in every Dr. Seuss book, despite his creativity.

4) It was a metaphorical story for the idea of "You are looking in the wrong place for worldly beauty."  Also, there you go with your "my opinion is fact" thing again.  I find beauty in facts, you find beauty in someone else's swing on facts.  Neither of us is wrong or right because there is no right answer to the question,"what is beauty?".

5) I specifically said that I was purposely writing that way to reflect the way everyone else, including you, has written in this thread and on the forums.

6) This is completely false!  Successful musicians always follow facts!  Occidental musicians use the fact that there are twelve tones at their disposal, that certain combinations of those tones create feelings inside of the listener, that there are major and minor keys, seventh and ninth and sixth chords, that there is an organized layout for writing music, that if a string or key is pressed in such a way, a certain clarity in the tone will be produced.  You sure as hell can be creative in music, but sure as hell won't do much good for you.  Music only sounds good to other people when it follows the facts of music.  Sure, go all out wailing on your guitar or panio or euphonium, but without following some fact-determined progression, the music won't sound or feel good.  The only time there is creativity in music is when something new (not a piece of music) comes to the industry, such as a new genre or instrument.  And even then fact is used.

I am not an aficionado of dance or the graphic arts, but I am certain that both follow a very limiting slew of facts - the limitations of body movement for dance and the suitability of materials for art are two I could think of.

In the last sentence of your paragraph, you established that it was opinion - finally good.  But, you are mistaken, for I got the B+ because, as I said before, I got Senioritis, which if you don't know is a terrible, debilitating disease that causes drowsiness, loss of concern, chronic partying, and class-napping.  The only known treatment for it is plenty of rest, plenty of food, a regular dosage of endorphins, and graduation.  Results of senioritis always involves scarring of the Ganglian Pituitary Aeoli.

On a serious note, I got "premature senioritis", stopped giving a forget, got B's on two tests and a quiz and I could recover my grade in one of the afflicted classes.  The lack of note taking had nothing AT ALL to do with my lowered grade.  In fact, had I been taking notes, my dyslexia would have kicked in, forgeted up what I was writing, I would waste time fixing it, and I would miss the rest of the lesson.

7) k cool thanks.

What does living in the moment have anything to do with this at all?  Technically speaking, we are always living in the past, because it takes time for light to reflect from an object to our eyes, so we are seeing the past.  If you are referring to my comment that I think about something for days after I have experienced it, then I see where you got the idea.  But, thinking about the world as it was is not not (double negative, accentuate the second not) living in the present.  In actuality, thinking about a single concept out of an entire system out of an entire environment is living in the future because nature is cyclical - what happened once will happen again.  Learning from the past teaches you about the future.

More opinion, please stop.  Thought can be separated from worldy interactions - the body can put into autopilot.  I don't do this, just throwin the concept out there.  I retain the memories and ideas I had at any moment and recollect my unfinished thoughts when at a time or place that I have nothing to do.  Again, it is your opinion that I should not feel the need to beautify something via the facts.  I'll turn the opinion thing against you.

Why do you live in a way that you miss the beauty in the world?  As you move on to new situations, you just dump what you had just experienced and begin taking in more sights and sounds,  there is so much more beauty you can glean out of every precious moment of your life, why are you wasting it just going with the flow.  Think about the chemicals in that chocolate bar you are eating that cause it to taste so good, look at the flours and wonder how they are so colorful, listen to the call of the birds and think about how they got their individual calls.  This is true beauty, every aspect of life is teaming with beauty, so absorb it all.  Get all of the information out of it as you can.  Understanding is knowledge, and knowledge is key to success and prosperity.  Life is prosperity, so live long and prosper.



Stop using the word "beauty".  It is too subjective of a word.  Remove your own personal opinions from your posts - if it isn't fact, it is right (in some way) and it needs to be indentified as opinion, at least.