Author Topic: Why is it offensive to make fun of Mohammed?  (Read 5836 times)

Can't see any issue with collectively hating an ethnic group due to the actions of the Israeli government.

Are you kidding? I make fun of Jews on a daily basis just casually. They're probably the religion I casually lash the most. I even do it to Jews' faces and I've never gotten one even slightly offended reaction.

I'm Jewish and almost everyone I meet bashes my faith, however it doesn't mean I become aggressive. I just chuckle and go along with it. If I am really offended, I'd just walk away respectfully. If I made fun of a black or an Arab and made fun of their culture and nationality, I would be shot right in the head.

I'm Jewish and almost everyone I meet bashes my faith, however it doesn't mean I become aggressive. I just chuckle and go along with it. If I am really offended, I'd just walk away respectfully. If I made fun of a black or an Arab and made fun of their culture and nationality, I would be shot right in the head.

Cause they all have illegal firearms, am I right  :cookieMonster:

I'm Jewish and almost everyone I meet bashes my faith, however it doesn't mean I become aggressive. I just chuckle and go along with it. If I am really offended, I'd just walk away respectfully. If I made fun of a black or an Arab and made fun of their culture and nationality, I would be shot right in the head.
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whats a good way to tell muslims practice safe love???

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Throughout history and the world, you will find that nations founded on Christian principles (example, the US of course) are the ones with the greatest prosperity and freedom by far.
I can think of at least one nation with Christianity-imposed freedom restrictions as bad as some Islamic countries

the United States we live in today is a pagan nation that follows other gods.
I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue here.
The US does not have an established religion
Additionally, christianity is, by far, the majority religion, and has a very large influence on politics

Ethnicity has nothing to do with the superiority of Christianity. Brothers and Sisters in Christ are one not because they have a specific skin color, but because Christ unites all who follow Him in love.
I'm not sure why you're bringing ethnicity into this

Muslims do not have any hope in their belief because there is no assurance of salvation. Even Muhammad himself was not sure whether or not he would go to paradise. The Quran teaches that you earn salvation by good works; If that was true, you'd go to heaven and boast about your works to everyone. Christianity is the only religion in the world that teaches you can't earn salvation. It's a free and eternal gift given by God to those who trust in Christ as their personal lord and savior. Now that's true hope right there!
If you think that makes Christianity better, that's your opinion.
A follower of another religion might say this is a downfall of Christianity and something that makes their religion better: That they actually have to be a good person to get rewarded.
You're free to your opinion, and they're free to theirs, but for you to call other religions inferior because of it is highly ethnocentric.

(I don't really know why I'm jumping into this.)

Anyway, here's something a lot of y'all don't seem to get about Christianity.

There's more fakers in this religion than any other, mainly because it's the most widespread.

This is mainly true for America - if you go to, say, China or India and talk to a Christian, it is much more likely that you will encounter a truly respectable Christian. This is unfortunately not the case in counties such as America - people will claim Christianity left and right for various reasons, but is it always a true belief? Often it is not.

I can think of at least one nation with Christianity-imposed freedom restrictions as bad as some Islamic countries
Like I said, all nations have flaws, and there is no such thing as a perfect nation (aside from the Kingdom of God). In the case of this bill, it is not Christian to persecute homoloveuals. While they are correct to declare homoloveuality as a sin, persecuting the sinner for their sin is not the proper response and God alone shall judge them. There are many people throughout the world who claim to fight for Christ when in reality they are fighting for themselves and for their own cruel desires.
However, God has given man the freedom to make the laws of their nations as they wish, and as all nations are on this earth under God's hand, we are to be subject to the governing authorities, because it is honoring to God.
In the United States, it is very good that we live in a democracy rather than a theocracy. Churches that are state-sanctioned become the government's puppets, and are no longer used for God's glory, but for the evil purposes of sinful man. And when governments permit religion to control politics and the country, it just as easily allows in the possibility for other religions to come in and take over.

I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue here.
The US does not have an established religion
Additionally, christianity is, by far, the majority religion, and has a very large influence on politics
The Human heart is literally an idol factory. Every day, we easily make idols out of things- oftentimes without consciously knowing it. There are many people who spend their lives pursuing making money to the point where it becomes their life. They have made money their idol, and rather than trusting God to care for their finances, they take matters into their own hands. Many politicians idolize power, and pursue it all costs, making false promises to win elections, pursuing backdoor methods to keep in office, or even assassinating or killing their political opponents. It can be said that many people in all countries across the globe pursue their own selfish desires, wanting to be the gods of their own lives. Countless people worship the gods of money, loveual pleasure, food, movie stars, and video games.

I'm not sure why you're bringing ethnicity into this
Ah, my mistake. I was unaware that ethnicity and ethnocentrism were two different things. I looked it up in the dictionary, so now I know the difference between the two.

If you think that makes Christianity better, that's your opinion.
A follower of another religion might say this is a downfall of Christianity and something that makes their religion better: That they actually have to be a good person to get rewarded.
You're free to your opinion, and they're free to theirs, but for you to call other religions inferior because of it is highly ethnocentric.
Except there is no such thing as a "good person". In the beginning, Adam and Eve chose to disobey God, and now all mankind is burdened with sin. We are all sinners; unholy and unperfect. It is impossible for us as fallen beings to be "good". We as individuals may do some good things- but we have a sin nature. On the other hand, God is holy; without blemishes or sin. He is literally good.

It is not ethnocentric to say that Christianity is superior. Christianity is not about an idea, or a theory, or a way of life- it's about a person, and that person is Jesus Christ. Christ is for everyone, of every culture, skin color, tongue and region of the world. He is not himself for a specific culture, but for all men and women. The idea of cultural relativism ("what may be true for you in your culture may not be true for me in mine") is one of the many lies created by fallen mankind as an excuse to themselves to disobey God and pursue their own ways.

No other religion possesses the hope that can be found in Christ, because He is the only risen savior. The religions of mankind cannot bring true hope to their followers because there is none to be found- they are created by men, and like the bodies of men turn to dust and crumble. No other religion can answer the truly critical questions of life as logically and coherently as Christianity can, and no other religion can meet the mountains of evidence that Christianity has, and no other religion has such a positive message of love and salvation.

The God of the Bible is real, and He has instilled this knowledge in the hearts of everyone, deep down. Not only that, he places in each one of us the realization that there is life after death. He proves his existence to us in countless ways- through the amazing beauty of His creation, through the very fact that there is something rather than nothing (a question of existence science cannot give a coherent answer for), through the complexity of life, the majesty and power of mountains, gunpowder and supernovas, and most of all, through His word. Everyone is without excuse- in their hearts they shall know He is the one true God, but they do not want to be responsible to Him; so some follow their own gods, or simply say he does not exist- and God has given them this freedom to do so. Christ has died and risen so that everyone may have eternal life that is assured and true, and in Him, we have the one true freedom- the freedom from eternal death.

Everything is this world is temporary; anyone is free to fool themself to believe whatever they like- to worship whomever or whatever they want, and do whatever they want. But when you die, there is no escaping the truth of God. Jesus- He's eternal, and that's who I'm going with!
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If a group of people cannot bear to take slander against what they like or believe in, they don't deserve to be offended.

forget the muslims (No offense)

If a group of people cannot bear to take slander against what they like or believe in, they don't deserve to be offended.
Then who does? People who can bear to take slander? They wouldn't be offended.

That's a contradiction but I think I get what you mean.

Then who does? People who can bear to take slander? They wouldn't be offended.

That's a contradiction but I think I get what you mean.

Being offended is the literal denial of anothers view point.
It may not be a good viewpoint, but it's their opinion and must be honored.

The US is not founded on Christian principles.
The Founding Fathers were probably religious (I think most of them were Deist but I'm unsure) but they specifically made the Constitution secular.
Yes. The Founding Fathers were religious, iirc, but one of them actually enacted the first bill of the US that had freedom of religion. Before that they were founded on religious principles and were very religious until the Second Constitutional Congress, when the Constitution was thought up( guess who paid attention in history! )