Author Topic: What constitutes animal cruelty in your opinion  (Read 2046 times)

I'm not gonna sugar coat this but I'm also gonna try to refrain from putting my opinions out there on this one, so I'm gonna try and keep this as factual as I can:

Starter info- My family recently got a kitten, she's about 4-5 months old, social, curious, etc, great cat honestly. The cat belongs to my younger brother, who has wanted a cat for almost two years now, so my parents finally caved (against my recommendations but hey, they're in charge.) The reason I told them not to get him a cat, has two parts:
He's has low-mild autism
he's got a temper issue
Before any of you get butthurt about autism - He's my brother. I'd take a bullet for him, no matter how badly I despise him. But this is like putting Steven Hawking behind the wheel of an F1 Formula Racecar: not a good idea. He (my brother) has little to no social skills, his basic logistical thinking is on par with a 1st grader, and his sense of moral responsibility stops where it doesn't affect him.

The issue at hand- Every day is the same thing in our house: we go about our lives, spend our free time playing video games and all is calm and well. Things go downhill about every 2-5 minutes, or whenever he has a break in his games. For example, just this evening he was playing some farming game, and after his crops were planted and he had to wait for them to grow, he turns in his chair, forcively shoves his arm into the cat's enclosed bed, and acts like his hand is a blender, complete with hissing sounds, "quit biting me stupid cat!", putting his face at the opening of the cat's bed, pulling her OUT of her bed, holding her against her will in his arms (usually for about a full 5 minutes), and then shoves her back in to her bed when his game is ready.



If you want the TL;DR, look at the red
When many of you clicked on this topic, I imagine in your head came images of poor puppies hit by cars and barely alive, kittens blind in one eye from a gun accident, cigarette burns on a rottweiler, etc. But that's obviously not the case here. Where do you draw the line on 'rough play' and then it's 'cruelty'

*side note:
he's fully aware the cat is crying, all three of us (mom, dad and I) have spoken to him about it in varying degrees of seriousness on a daily basis, He knows it's not okay


my brother is severely autistic and i completely understand

he doesn't care at all for animals, but wouldnt take an instant to think about bringing home a kitten or cute puppy
he's done it before

Animal cruelty, by law, is causing an animal unnecessary pain. You could literally stick a bomb on your dog and blow it up, and it wouldn't be animal cruelty. People have done this before.
The killing of an animal is a different law though.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2014, 01:37:52 AM by McZealot »

what the forget keep that cat away from your brother

OT: animal cruelty is hitting an animal on purpose, that's pretty much it.
 

stop him if he ever does this again, he will learn.

TAKE THAT CAT AWAY FROM HIM NOW.

Get him a stuffed animal and until he can take care of that well then the kitten should be in the care of someone else.

If he knows it's not ok then you need to either get help or re-home the kitten
or both

TAKE THAT CAT AWAY FROM HIM NOW.

Get him a stuffed animal and until he can take care of that well then the kitten should be in the care of someone else.

Seriously this, what the hell, why are your parents okay with this?

How old is your brother?
I'm not sure I'd call it animal cruelty, more just being an asshat, I guess if I was his brother/parent I would just try to teach him how to handle it properly and any time he does stupid stuff ban him from x for x time.
But yeah if he knows he shouldn't do it and keeps doing it give the cat away or something.


He's 15, but whenever I describe him I take off about 6 years and it's pretty accurate.
so basically he's 9 years old with a 15 year old body

We own a golden retriever who weighs just as much as he does, and we've had her for 3 years so I think (aka this is an assumption) that's where he gets the idea you can play rough with any animal. I get on the ground and wrestle with our dog, so maybe in his mind he thinks if he only uses his hands it's 'gentle'

I have no authority over him, my parents or if we own pets. There's not really too much I can do. Usually I try to keep the cat in this basket in the sunlight where she tends to play/sleep, but if he still decides to carry her around like a suitcase (that's not a joke, either. He carries the cathouse into the computer room because it's realistically the ONLY way the cat will come with him) I keep an ear out for the cat.

His hands are constantly scratched and bloody, he's been bit in the face before, and at the rate things are going I'm worried my parents will declaw this cat like they did our last two (See: Declawing is like chopping off the ends of your fingers for a cat)

I feel bad for the cat, but thus far I've come up with nothing I can do for her. I'm kind of just hoping he gets bored of her eventually and he just leaves the cat alone so she can actually sleep when she's trying to sleep.

Talk to your parents and tell them about this and how he isn't responsible enough to take care of the cat and it should just be the family cat, and that they should keep him away from her if possible. Remind them that autism isnt a free pass to do anything and he still needs to learn whats right and wrong. I'm a huge cat person and I can't stand hearing about this kind of thing. If you need to, move the cat into your room when he gets pissed or whenever he moves her into the computer room. And even no 9 year old I've ever met would be like this. Even most toddlers.

It seems your brother has one of those "i have autism so i can do anything and not get in trouble!!!!" mentalities.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2014, 01:57:31 AM by Zanaran2 »

It seems your brother has one of those "i have autism so i can do anything!!!!" mentalities.

I don't think that's how that works...

I don't think that's how that works...
Then have I got news for you! :cookieMonster:
He's pretty much spot on. I kid you not he blames everything on his autism
"If I wasn't autistic ----"
It is beyond annoying

Mr Man as much as I appreciate your advice, I just don't see my parents taking me seriously or that going well. They've got it stuck in their heads that I'd slit his throat given the chance (not saying I wouldn't but..)
If I'm to go that route I'll need proof. Which would be hard. Might see about freeing up space on my iPhone for recording purposes

Record it on video and show it to your parents.