LugHost hosting -- Service shutting down (page 11)

[Pecon]

There is no infrastructure, no development, nothing to show.

I think you forgot to look with your eyes.

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[otto-san]

Can also confirm we didn't make off with loads of profit!

yeah, $100 a month is not really a lot

i personally don't care if the service is profiting from me or not because a) profit is motivation, b) profit insures longevity, c) i'm not some kind of hippy that thinks it's unfair for people to make money off me for providing a service

so long as the price is reasonable and the service is of substantial quality does it matter to that the person providing it gains from providing the service? what is the downside to this?

i suppose the context adds a bit of shadiness to it. in the end, maybe it literally all comes down to how much you trust the service provider. i personally trust lugnut because he's a really cool guy and seems levelheaded enough to not run some kind of scam hosting service.

[YayFun]

Probably.  But to be blunt, Lug still comes across as a totally incompetent kid that wants everoyne to pile on his crappy choice of VPS on which he has slapped the label 'hosting service'.   There is no infrastructure, no development, nothing to show.  I said this before, but just to reiiterate, there is no need to go through Lug for hosting.  In fact, it would be more difficult to depend on him to maintain it and process everyone than it would be to just buy a vps and download blockland and your ftp program of choice if desired.

Not everyone knows how to setup and use a server though, so in some cases going through a host is a great option.

[Hammereditor5]

Probably.  But to be blunt, Lug still comes across as a totally incompetent kid that wants everoyne to pile on his crappy choice of VPS on which he has slapped the label 'hosting service'.   There is no infrastructure, no development, nothing to show.  I said this before, but just to reiiterate, there is no need to go through Lug for hosting.  In fact, it would be more difficult to depend on him to maintain it and process everyone than it would be to just buy a vps and download blockland and your ftp program of choice if desired.

It's better to have a crappy hosting service that no hosting service at all.
Lugnut mentioned that he'll make a control panel later. Why not serve the clients who need it now, and who don't care about infrastructure?

[Lugnut]

Lugnut mentioned that he'll make a control panel later. Why not serve the clients who need it now, and who don't care about infrastructure?

this was kinda the idea all along
I've been working on getting the first 4 clients set up for about 3.5 hours now, and I've been stuck on one single error - the Blockland servers aren't authenticating.
In the interest of not seeming like an ass/trying to steal people's money, I'll be refunding the first 4 clients totally if I cannot get the system working by 4:30PM PST (30 minutes)
I would refund them right now but I have a few things I'd like to try before giving up.

After refunding them, I'll lock this topic and continue work attempting to fix the issue. Since Blockland servers can be run successfully on Linux hosts, I just have to find out the specific configuration that is giving me issues. Assuming I can get things working, I'll unlock and bump the topic. Now that I have a tiny bit of experience, I can see a number of other potential issues that might creep up, so I'll catch and test to make sure those issues don't show up.
Additionally, I have the VPS for a whole month, so I can test things on the exact system they'll be running on in production, so that'll trim out any hangups there.I'd like to point out that this was almost a closed beta (see "wip" in the title) - I wasn't expecting everything to work flawlessly this time around. If it had, great, but I was prepared for issues... just not issues of this magnitude.


Thank you to everyone with support, and thanks for the constructive criticism, particularly of my choice in hosting .

[YayFun]

this was kinda the idea all along
I've been working on getting the first 4 clients set up for about 3.5 hours now, and I've been stuck on one single error - the Blockland servers aren't authenticating.
In the interest of not seeming like an ass/trying to steal people's money, I'll be refunding the first 4 clients totally if I cannot get the system working by 4:30PM PST (30 minutes)
I would refund them right now but I have a few things I'd like to try before giving up.

After refunding them, I'll lock this topic and continue work attempting to fix the issue. Since Blockland servers can be run successfully on Linux hosts, I just have to find out the specific configuration that is giving me issues. Assuming I can get things working, I'll unlock and bump the topic. Now that I have a tiny bit of experience, I can see a number of other potential issues that might creep up, so I'll catch and test to make sure those issues don't show up.
Additionally, I have the VPS for a whole month, so I can test things on the exact system they'll be running on in production, so that'll trim out any hangups there.I'd like to point out that this was almost a closed beta (see "wip" in the title) - I wasn't expecting everything to work flawlessly this time around. If it had, great, but I was prepared for issues... just not issues of this magnitude.


Thank you to everyone with support, and thanks for the constructive criticism, particularly of my choice in hosting .

I had success on Ubuntu 10.04 I believe it was with Blockland.

[Lugnut]

I had success on Ubuntu 10.04 I believe it was with Blockland.

Yes. And my scripts and methods run my personal copy perfectly fine, but not any of the test copies or the actual ones. I'm not sure how I failed to catch this error during testing.

I'm refunding right now.

[Greek2me]

You've hit the same roadblock as me. I'll let you know when I figure it out.

[Lugnut]

Done. All clients have been refunded en-totale.

Thanks again everybody, with any luck, we'll be back soon.

[Lugnut]

I've resolved the issue that plagued me, and now that school is done for a week I can focus on launching this service.

I have 4 beta users (one of whom has discovered over 12 bugs, I'm both pleased and sorry to say) and to the best of my knowledge, everything is running smoothly.
If you go to http://master2.blockland.us and ctrl+f "216.224.169.29" you can see all the servers run by this service. Feel free to join one ingame and check out how it feels.

I'm estimating release in a week a week from two days ago, so the 28th, but it might be sooner if everything is going flawlessly. That isn't very likely, to be honest, but one can hope.

Thanks again.These auth errors that the master server is having trouble with seem to be nuking servers. They become totally unresponsive after failing an auth check. This is not good.

[Hammereditor5]

These auth errors that the master server is having trouble with seem to be nuking servers. They become totally unresponsive after failing an auth check. This is not good.

Do these affect all Blockland servers which you host, or just the ones using the control panel?
None of the HammerHost-hosted servers have had this problem.

[Lugnut]

I've seen it affect two out of three, and it takes a random amount of time or so - one died in a few hours, the other went down after a day. Additionally, both the servers had no players on them when they went down, and one of them never had any players on it.

[Hammereditor5]

Very strange. I'll watch out for this.
Does the console indicate anything? I'm sure you already tried this, but just making sure.

[Lugnut]

Console described something about an auth fail, then it couldn't post to the master server (there was an error)
It was also unresponsive to console input

[jleneau]

Console described something about an auth fail, then it couldn't post to the master server (there was an error)
It was also unresponsive to console input

I, kinda was testing this a bit, in fact, I've been testing a couple services to see which is my favorite taste, if you know what I mean.