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Those are all considered mental illnesses. :v

I don't think they are, Tourette's is a nuerological condition.

I don't think they are, Tourette's is a nuerological condition.
Neurological comes from neuron, neurons are only present in your brain. Issues with your brain are called mental disorders.

Neurological comes from neuron, neurons are only present in your brain. Issues with your brain are called mental disorders.

No, mental disorders are conditions which effect the way you act and your personality while nuerological disorders are conditions which effect you physically. Also for those who don't know: http://www.medicinenet.com/tourette_syndrome/article.htm

Not quite. Mental disorders are disorders related to your brain and mind; they don't necessarily affect the way you act or your personality. Someone with schizophrenia could decline to act upon things they know are results of their condition, and it doesn't necessarily affect their personality either. That doesn't make it not a mental disorder. Neurological disorders don't generally affect you 'physically.' There are some exceptions (see: somatoform disorders) but in most cases your brain can't directly affect your body.  Tourettes doesn't affect your body, it affects the way you act (ticks) and the way you think.

Or I can explain it simply using Wikipedia.

Tourette syndrome [...] is an inherited neuropsychiatric disorder with onset in childhood [...]

Neuropsychiatry is a branch of medicine that deals with mental disorders attributable to diseases of the nervous system.
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I don't think they are, Tourette's is a nuerological condition.
Yeah you're right, it's just neurological, but a lot of neurological disorders are also considered mental illnesses.
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Not quite. Mental disorders are disorders related to your brain and mind; they don't necessarily affect the way you act or your personality. Someone with schizophrenia could decline to act upon things they know are results of their condition, and it doesn't necessarily affect their personality either. That doesn't make it not a mental disorder. Neurological disorders don't generally affect you 'physically.' There are some exceptions (see: somatoform disorders) but in most cases your brain can't directly affect your body.  Tourettes doesn't affect your body, it affects the way you act (ticks) and the way you think.

Or I can explain it simply using Wikipedia.

Tourette syndrome [...] is an inherited neuropsychiatric disorder with onset in childhood [...]

Neuropsychiatry is a branch of medicine that deals with mental disorders attributable to diseases of the nervous system.

It depends though, Tourette's can come in many forms and tics vary - some may have tics where they have to spew vulgarity, others have to say things or make noises and others have to make physical movements which they cant control. I have the movement part, and my Tourette's effects me physically all the time - I get these horrible chills down my spine when I feel like I am having a tremor, my body feels like its on fire, and I feel like shaking everywhere and I get wobbly. Although I do think that it is possible that I was misdiagnosed being that my neurologist proposed to me and my parents that it is possible that I may have a more complex neurological disorder.

Yeah you're right, it's just neurological, but a lot of neurological disorders are also considered mental illnesses.

I cant think of any which are mental illnesses from the top of my head.

It depends though, Tourette's can come in many forms and tics vary - some may have tics where they have to spew vulgarity, others have to say things or make noises and others have to make physical movements which they cant control. I have the movement part, and my Tourette's effects me physically all the time - I get these horrible chills down my spine when I feel like I am having a tremor, my body feels like its on fire, and I feel like shaking everywhere and I get wobbly. Although I do think that it is possible that I was misdiagnosed being that my neurologist proposed to me and my parents that it is possible that I may have a more complex neurological disorder.
That sounds like Tourette's to me. It's a neuropsychiatric disorder as I said in the bottom of my post, and neuropsychiatric disorders are mental disorders.

I cant think of any which are mental illnesses from the top of my head.
Are you joking? Lol.

That sounds like Tourette's to me. It's a neuropsychiatric disorder as I said in the bottom of my post, and neuropsychiatric disorders are mental disorders.
Are you joking? Lol.

According to distinguished neurologists and universities it is a mere neurological disorder. The way you are categorizing these disorders isn't correct at all. Any condition or disease pertaining to the brain isn't a mental disorder. Also no I am not joking, if you could list some I'd appreciate it.

fun fact: frozen is a commentary on mental illness.
having been through four psychiatrists, an actual institution, and umpteen prescriptions, and none of it having helped an iota, realize my case is actually very rare. doesn't mean that anyone seeking help otherwise won't have good results, you won't know until you try.

According to distinguished neurologists and universities it is a mere neurological disorder. The way you are categorizing these disorders isn't correct at all. Any condition or disease pertaining to the brain isn't a mental disorder. Also no I am not joking, if you could list some I'd appreciate it.
Can you cite your sources? Neuroscience is one of my favorite subjects and I know a lot more about it than you probably think I do. Not all conditions pertaining to the brain are mental disorders -- but all mental disorders are conditions pertaining to the brain.

I can prove to you that tourettes is a mental disorder a thousand different ways, but I don't think even that will be enough for you.

Here are a bunch of pages that list mental disorders. Tourette's is present on all of them.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders
http://www.mentalhealth.com/p20-grp.html
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-types-illness

Here's a website dedicated to mental illnesses with a page on Tourette's: http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/About_Mental_Illness/By_Illness/Tourettes_Syndrome.htm

And if that's still not enough for you: the industry standard for mental disorders is called the DSM-V, short for Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders Revision 5. Tourette's is listed in this manual. http://tsa-usa.org/news/DSM-5.html

Speaking of tourettes, as stated before my Schizophrenia includes tourettes-like symptoms, showing that it is pretty much a mental illness. If it wasn't than it wouldn't be part of a mental illness I don't think.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Just try not to be a starfish about it.

I have a mental disorder called Skweaver; it's named after me and only I have it.

If you don't believe me, check your mental health privilege, scum.

Can you cite your sources? Neuroscience is one of my favorite subjects and I know a lot more about it than you probably think I do. Not all conditions pertaining to the brain are mental disorders -- but all mental disorders are conditions pertaining to the brain.

I can prove to you that tourettes is a mental disorder a thousand different ways, but I don't think even that will be enough for you.

Here are a bunch of pages that list mental disorders. Tourette's is present on all of them.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders
http://www.mentalhealth.com/p20-grp.html
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-types-illness

Here's a website dedicated to mental illnesses with a page on Tourette's: http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/About_Mental_Illness/By_Illness/Tourettes_Syndrome.htm

And if that's still not enough for you: the industry standard for mental disorders is called the DSM-V, short for Diagnostic and Statistics Manual of Mental Disorders Revision 5. Tourette's is listed in this manual. http://tsa-usa.org/news/DSM-5.html

I can also show you things which prove otherwise:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tourette/detail_tourette.htm
http://kidshealth.org/teen/diseases_conditions/brain_nervous/tourette.html
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tourette-syndrome/basics/definition/con-20043570
http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/About_Mental_Illness/By_Illness/Tourettes_Syndrome.htm (According to NAMI they say it is a neurological illness)

Neurological disorders and mental disorders are not completely distinct. Let me quote myself:

Not all conditions pertaining to the brain are mental disorders -- but all mental disorders are conditions pertaining to the brain.

Something can be in both classifications, and in this case it is. Tourette's is both a neurological and mental disorder, which makes perfect sense.