Author Topic: Phil Fish still thinks he's relevant.  (Read 4435 times)

The thing is: he's right.
Nearly every other indie developer would disagree.

Let me just bring up the most important part here:
Quote
He then tweeted several more times, as follows:

"If you generate money from putting my content on your channel, you owe me money. Simple as that."
"If you buy a movie, are you then allowed to stream the entirety of it publicly for people to watch for free? No, because that's illegal."
"Systems are in place to prevent that. But buy Fez, put ALL of it on YouTube, turn on ads, make money from it and that's TOTALLY FINE."
"And the developer should in NO WAY be compensated for their work being freely distributed to the world. Right. Makes sense."
The point someone buys Fez is the point where they had already given him more than 10x the amount they'd make off ad revenue.

A majority of other developers and publishers actually thank people for uploading videos and streaming their content.
It's free loving advertising. Some people find games by watching their favorite youtuber upload a video about it.

Secrets of Grindea:
Quote
Despite the game having been available for quite some time now, we sometimes get sales bumps from when streamers and YouTubers showcase our game, so thanks for spreading the word!

Starbound:
Quote
YouTube Permission

Chucklefish LTD hereby grants permission for the use of in-game audio & video for “Let’s Play”, “Preview”, “Review” and/or “Commentary”-style videos on YouTube, including ad-supported channels/videos. The creator of the video may use in-game audio & video for as many videos as desired.

etc etc you get the point.

I mean who gives a forget about the consumer and long term smart business decisions, right?

The thing is: he's right.

No he's not right, making people pay to make gameplay videos after buying a game is completely handicapped

if they weren't producing revenue off of it then yes it would be, that is not the case most of the time though
games aren't royalty free just because you buy them and the dev should be able to make LPs pay parts of their income for using their content to get emone

No he's not right, making people pay to make gameplay videos after buying a game is completely handicapped
So if pewdiepie buys a game for $10, records him failing at it, adds some blahblah and makes $1m from ad revenue, that's fair?

if they weren't producing revenue off of it then yes it would be, that is not the case most of the time though
games aren't royalty free just because you buy them and the dev should be able to make LPs pay parts of their income for using their content to get emone
Then people stop doing it, mostly out of protest.
Then the publisher/developers get less money because they just lost a massive (free) ad campaign. Less people are buying the game.
There's also less people buying the game out of protest.

They lose nothing by letting people post videos and stream their games. Those people already bought the game, and now they're showing how good it is to the rest of the people. Those people are also most likely going to buy the game now. But yeah, guess people like you and Phil Fish don't understand any good long term business strategies.

So if pewdiepie buys a game for $10, records him failing at it, adds some blahblah and makes $1m from ad revenue, that's fair?
If I drive a Ford Mustang,  and I give my friend a ride,  should he pay Ford for riding my car?

Then people stop doing it, mostly out of protest.
Then the publisher/developers get less money because they just lost a massive (free) ad campaign. Less people are buying the game.
There's also less people buying the game out of protest.
youtube should let devs stop LPs or make them pay royalties
not saying it's a good or bad idea marketing wise

youtube should let devs stop LPs or make them pay royalties
not saying it's a good or bad idea marketing wise
Funny you should say this.
They already can.
Phil Goldfish is just saying the process should be automatic and without choice.

But there's a reason 90% of them don't do it.

lol why demand money for free advertizing

So if pewdiepie buys a game for $10, records him failing at it, adds some blahblah and makes $1m from ad revenue, that's fair?
pewdiepie is basically an outlier, most other people do not make NEARLY as much revenue as he does fom his videos.

So if pewdiepie buys a game for $10, records him failing at it, adds some blahblah and makes $1m from ad revenue, that's fair?
Pewdiepie has 24 million subscribers

24 million people will watch Pewdiepie play the game

30% of those people will probably buy that game

If the game costs at least 10$, the developer will generate 72 million dollars in sales

phil is probably just butthurt that he burnt every damn bridge by being so infantile, and now that he can't get anyone to make games with him he needs to get more revenue from fez in order to keep on buying woolen caps or something

pewdiepie is basically an outlier, most other people do not make NEARLY as much revenue as he does fom his videos.
I don't know a single person who watches his videos. How he has this many subscribers is a conspiracy I say!


Anyways this situation is basically the age old problem that if you sell someone a product and they use that product to make more money than the person who sold it to them with said product, does the buyer have to then pay the seller some royalty for making money with said product.

The answer depends on ones ideals, and generally if they're a seller or a buyer of things. In this case though I've always believed that once you sell something, you sold it, and how someone chooses to use it, isn't yours to define. If they're smarter than you and manage to get more money from it then you did, sucks for you.

In this case its even more obvious that nobody should care because in this case the seller will likely make even more sales as a result. Where exactly is the problem?

30% of those people will probably buy that game
this is a really good point that i completely forgot about.

I don't know a single person who watches his videos.
i watch most of em. subscribed to him too. i think he's funny.