Author Topic: If you type "lgbt" in Google, you get a cool color scheme.  (Read 10139 times)

Like seriously. I am loving sick of everyone bitching about either side. Straight pride is something that isn't needed and thats why people get angry about it. I think lgbt isn't necessary but its a topic that seriously pisses me off whenever I see it on the forums. Literally every topic on this forum about genders, feminists, gay pride or tumblr turns into a massive argument where people cannot side on one thing. I remember there was an lgbt thread and that was a loving mess. I don't care if being gay is a choice or if you're just a special snowflake, just shut the forget up and stop ramming your head into every topic related to it. Sure, its a massive debate, but every time
Neither side is correct but they still have points, I'm so tired of seeing lgbt and social justice warriors around on the internet, just leave them be and let them have their own opinions, if you hate them don't bother replying. They're in their own world. While lgbt and genders are a different topic, they both start the same stuffstorm that happens on this forum.No, but its this type of topic in general. Every single time someone makes a topic related to this it turns into a massive war between the forums and its loving irritating. Just keep your opinions to yourself and some topics I think try to start arguments like this, its just plain annoying and I think I'm the only one to notice. Every time theres something like this the forum starts a never ending war until an admin takes action
 Proof?
Literally every topic about lgbt or gays turns into a 20 page whatever
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=254766.0
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=252876.0
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=250594.0
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=215826.0 look, even Kaiiu knows that it will start an argument
Good god is it hard to keep your opinions to yourself? I mean just look at this
http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=251857.0
Almost every topic I've seen related to gays, genders or anything else turns into a debate about it. Good loving god I am sick of it. If you're gay, good job its your decision. Anyways, I think op was trying to make an argument happen.
Like I told you privately, I think topics for argument and debate are good.
If one doesn't wish to participate, one doesn't need to. Just like furry threads, brony threads, or any other thread.

That's now science works... Sure you can have an idea that goes against convention, but unless evidence is provided it remains just that, an idea. So if you were to say the theory of gravity which isn't a theory but rather a scientific law that modern science is built upon was wrong, you might get someone that has an open mind that might say that it could be wrong, but you will probably be dismissed as you've presented nothing but a giant load of unproven bullstuff.
I'm not saying its wrong. I'm saying it could be wrong, which is true. I think you misunderstood me.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 11:15:59 AM by Doomonkey »

Like I told you privately, I think topics for argument and debate are good.
If one doesn't wish to participate, one doesn't need to. Just like furry threads, brony threads, or any other thread.
I'm not saying its a bad thing to debate, I'm saying every topic related to it turns into an argument


I'm not saying its a bad thing to debate, I'm saying every topic related to it turns into an argument
Well what's the alternative?
If an argument didn't occur all you'd have is a bunch of topics with a few "oh thats cool /support" replies and then they'd die, having contributed nothing interesting to the board.


Literally every topic about lgbt or gays turns into a 20 page whatever
After being here for awhile, you learn to just expect these topics to turn into a debate.

If you don't want a massive stuffstorm then never discuss the following:
LGBT Related Issues
Immigration
Gun Control
Abortion
Atheism
Religion
Politics
War
EA/Activision
GMO foods
Aliens/Cryptids/Bigfoot
NSA/Mass Surveillance
Socialism/Fascism/Capitalism
Drug Legalization
Science related stuff such as cloning, gmos, solar road ways, space, ect
Furries
Bronies/Pegesisters/ect
Weabos/Otakus
Evil mustache man Dr. Godwin
Evil communist mustache man
>arguing/debate in itself
>nationalism and patriotism
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 11:25:03 AM by Harm94 »

After being here for awhile, you learn to just expect these topics to turn into a debate.

If you don't want a massive stuffstorm then never discuss the following:
LGBT Related Issues
Immigration
Gun Control
Abortion
Atheism
Religion
Politics
War
EA/Activision
GMO foods
Aliens/Cryptids/Bigfoot
NSA/Mass Surveillance
Socialism/Fascism
Drug Legalization
Science related stuff such as cloning, gmos, solar road ways, space, ect
Furries
Bronies/Pegesisters/ect
Weabos/Otakus
Evil mustache man Dr. Godwin
Evil communist mustache man
You forgot to add arguing.

You forgot to add arguing.
Also nationalities and patriotism.

After being here for awhile, you learn to just expect these topics to turn into a debate.

If you don't want a massive stuffstorm then never discuss the following:
LGBT Related Issues
Immigration
Gun Control
Abortion
Atheism
Religion
Politics
War
EA/Activision
GMO foods
Aliens/Cryptids/Bigfoot
NSA/Mass Surveillance
Socialism/Fascism
Drug Legalization
Science related stuff such as cloning, gmos, solar road ways, space, ect
Furries
Bronies/Pegesisters/ect
Weabos/Otakus
Evil mustache man Dr. Godwin
Evil communist mustache man
I agree completely

What's it matter if its a choice?
It matters because it's one of the reasons some people use to justify hatred towards it; it's a lot harder to justify hatred when the aspect you're hating can not be controlled at all.

Last I checked, in a free country, I can choose what I do as long as it doesn't adversely effect others or it isn't against the law...
In theory, yes. But the problem is that people who think it's a choice tend to be christians who insist it does adversely affect others and want it [at least marriage] to be against the law

That's not how science works. You can't just say "scientific consensus is you're wrong." The fact of the matter is there are a grand number of new things to discover, on our planet and elsewhere. A scientists doesn't tell someone they are wrong just for putting out an idea.
There's a difference between "putting out an idea" and "putting out an idea that contradicts very large amounts of research, with nothing to back up yours"
No, you don't need research to have this idea. But you do need it if you want anyone to take it seriously or give it any actual thought

which isn't a theory but rather a scientific law
A theory and a law are completely different things. Neither are "less true" than the other.  A law states what happens, a theory explains why that happens. There's both a law ("things fall") and a theory (explaining why and how it works) of gravity.

Oh by the way, who's fault is it that gay love is more dangerous? The patriarchy's?
The only reason gay love is "more dangerous" is because of people who go around loving random people they just met without protection. The same risk is present in heteroloveual love. Mutually monogamous relationships are just as safe as heteroloveual mutual monogamous relationships. The difference is that homoloveual men tend to be more promiscuous.

I'm not saying its wrong. I'm saying it could be wrong, which is true. I think you misunderstood me.
Yes it theoretically "could" (and using that word very loosely) be wrong, but with the amount of evidence on one side, and the amount of evidence on the other, it's extremely unlikely.
Also, you didn't say "it could be wrong" . you said
I feel like this is probably not true.

Like I told you privately, I think topics for argument and debate are good.
This. I don't get why there's such a huge stigma towards debate; if you don't want to participate, don't. Humanity wouldn't have advanced at all in social issues (or any issue, really) if real leaders frowned on debate as much as you guys do.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 12:04:31 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

No, you don't need research to have this idea. But you do need it if you want anyone to take it seriously or give it any actual thought

You didn't say "it could be wrong" you said This.
There are billions of people currently alive and there were billions of people before them. I fail to see how it is far-fetched to say that at least one person has had the genetic code to choose their loveuality. I don't see how it is far-fetched to say it is probable. Maybe if my idea was something crazy it would need some evidence.

I feel like there is probably an exception to almost every correlation you can find in biology.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 12:08:44 PM by Doomonkey »

There are billions of people currently alive and there were billions of people before them. I fail to see how it is far-fetched to say that at least one person has had the genetic code to choose their loveuality. I don't see how it is far-fetched to say it is probable. Maybe if my idea was something crazy it would need some evidence.

I feel like there is probably an exception to almost every correlation you can find in biology.
Well ask yourself this, what is "choice"?
If you're an atheist you pretty much have to accept that free will is relative and that people don't have souls or any extra-physical entity within them.
That said, anything you do could be considered a "choice" in some context. Eating, breathing, being straight, anything.


The debate here is weather or not it is a choice you are going to choose because of factors before your birth (genetics, biology) , or after them (socialization).

Well ask yourself this, what is "choice"?
If you're an atheist you pretty much have to accept that free will is relative and that people don't have souls or any extra-physical entity within them.
That said, anything you do could be considered a "choice" in some context. Eating, breathing, being straight, anything.
The debate here is weather or not it is a choice you are going to choose because of factors before your birth (genetics, biology) , or after them (socialization).
Well yeah, there is really no choice anyway. So I suppose you could amend my idea to "not completely genetically controlled" as opposed to "chosen."

I feel like there is probably an exception to almost every correlation you can find
Yes, that's what correlation is, a mere trend. Trends always have exceptions
But this is far more than just a trend

There are billions of people currently alive and there were billions of people before them. I fail to see how it is far-fetched to say that at least one person has had the genetic code to choose their loveuality. I don't see how it is far-fetched to say it is probable. Maybe if my idea was something crazy it would need some evidence.
If some prehistoric or ancient person had the genetic traits to choose their loveuality, then (unless they didn't reproduce) we would see these traits passed down to their offspring, and those offspring to their offspring. But we haven't seen any evidence of them. The closest thing we have to "choosing" is biloveuals (who didn't choose to be biloveual) choosing to stick with heteroloveual relationships because they find them socially easier.

So I suppose you could amend my idea to "not completely genetically controlled"
The current thought is a combination of genetic and environmental factors (such as prenatal hormones, as just one example)
So yeah you'd be right in that it's not completely genetic. But again, none of these factors are willfully chosen by the affected person
« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 12:25:30 PM by Headcrab Zombie »

What's it matter if its a choice?

Don't you think it would be a bit different compared to how it is now if people could just choose to stop being gay?