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[childofdarkness016]

I find you annoying because not only is everything you say horsestuff,

usually you disagree with things because you find them horsestuff or vice versea

but moreso because you're also being a stuff about it all by going "oh poor me, it's too late to turn back now!" when all you have to do is heck off.

not trying to play the victim here but ok

Yes, it will. Know what you not being here changes? You're not here! That thing that people want! Incredible.

Maybe I want to participate in the Tumblr Megathread? Why should I force myself to not because some guy on the internet says so? This is just a petty argument that's over anyway, it's not like people really want me gone entirely (though at this point that's probably wrong). yeah, no one wants to deal with an argument and since I'm the person who's in the opposition to what's mainstream here, I'm going to be seen as the one instigating the argument and therefore the one who should leave.

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[SeventhSandwich]

http://forgetnovideogames.tumblr.com/

This makes me stuff blood.

[Kochieboy]

http://forgetnovideogames.tumblr.com/

This makes me stuff blood.

Cringed hard.

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

http://forgetnovideogames.tumblr.com/

This makes me stuff blood.

the outlast thing just pissed me off so much for so many reason

[childofdarkness016]

the outlast thing just pissed me off so much for so many reason

I get their point about the game being misogynistic (it's one thing to be devoid of women, another to solely portray them as victims), but I don't see how the game is ableist. I haven't really paid much attention to Outlast (i watched my friend play it for a bit once), but doesn't the disease or whatever the patients have MAKE them, you know, evil, or something?

[SeventhSandwich]

I get their point about the game being misogynistic (it's one thing to be devoid of women, another to solely portray them as victims), but I don't see how the game is ableist. I haven't really paid much attention to Outlast (i watched my friend play it for a bit once), but doesn't the disease or whatever the patients have MAKE them, you know, evil, or something?

Pretty sure in the DLC there's a female ward where you get attacked by women.

[Kochieboy]

Pretty sure in the DLC there's a female ward where you get attacked by women.

>protagonist gets attacked by women
>loveist

[Oasis]

the outlast thing just pissed me off so much for so many reason

Right?

It's a loving insane asylum...

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

I get their point about the game being misogynistic (it's one thing to be devoid of women, another to solely portray them as victims), but I don't see how the game is ableist. I haven't really paid much attention to Outlast (i watched my friend play it for a bit once), but doesn't the disease or whatever the patients have MAKE them, you know, evil, or something?

there are no women because they thought people would be offended if women were murdered or acted agaisnt
and now they're getting all offended because there aren't any women? forget off

besides, the story of the game (spoilers) but they're insane because of what the scientists did to them, its not their faults

[SeventhSandwich]

>protagonist gets attacked by women
>loveist

>protagonist is never attacked by women, women are attacked by other things
>"videogames portray women as victims!"
>protagonist is attacked by women enemies
>"videogames portray women as shrill and evil!"

The biggest reason I can't take feminist media criticism seriously it is that you can conjure it out of /anything/. 100% of all media can be misinterpreted and misconstrued to be offensive and marginalizing to a specific group. Here, try me. Give me a name of a movie, book, or videogame and I will point out how an armchair activist can see it as loveist/tribal/etc in some way.

[Buu]

The lack of a female villians is bothersome, perhaps this could provide some inspiration?

[childofdarkness016]

Pretty sure in the DLC there's a female ward where you get attacked by women.

so victims and villains

yeah it's still not really positive but at least it's not devoid of women?? Not sure which is better tbh

I guess it's a lot more challenging to do in a survival horror game (where there's a sole, usually male, protagonist and most characters aren't going to survive other than the protagonist anyway), but Silent Hill (as in the first one) looked pretty good from what I saw in terms of female positive representation so it's probably possible. I haven't played it since I don't own a PS1 and i'm not big on horror games anyway. Maybe I'll watch an LP of both games.

>protagonist gets attacked by women
>loveist

It really depends on the context, and in this one, it's not misogynist because of that. You can really only say the game is misogynist because there's a lack of positive female characters.

there are no women because they thought people would be offended if women were murdered or acted agaisnt

seriously

i mean yeah this blog still would have whined but i wouldn't have agreed with them. Good writers know how to make a scenario where a woman gets attacked NOT misogynist.

>protagonist is never attacked by women, women are attacked by other things
>"videogames portray women as victims!"
>protagonist is attacked by women enemies
>"videogames portray women as shrill and evil!"

The biggest reason I can't take feminist media criticism seriously it is that you can conjure it out of /anything/. 100% of all media can be misinterpreted and misconstrued to be offensive and marginalizing to a specific group. Here, try me. Give me a name of a movie, book, or videogame and I will point out how an armchair activist can see it as loveist/tribal/etc in some way.

but you have to understand why they're criticizing it? I'm saying they're justified in calling it misogynist because the only women in the game are victims and villains and not even major characters. Yeah, they can be wrong or making a mountain of an anthole, but there are instances where it's absolutely justified.

The lack of a female villians is bothersome, perhaps this could provide some inspiration?

holy stuff that's misogynist

it's a movie literally about a guy being abused by women?? sounds like a lot of internalized fear to me

and,yes, I would have said that it was misandrist if it were genderbent.

Might I ask if this is a parody? Regardless, I'm glad most things have moved past this level. :K

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

i mean yeah this blog still would have whined but i wouldn't have agreed with them. Good writers know how to make a scenario where a woman gets attacked

thats the problem though
people like the person running that blog would have been more offended by a depiction of women being victimized (being murdered by insane people) or being demonized (being the insane people). Better to swerve past that beehive honestly

also, the writing in that game is pretty good as far as horror goes. particularly in whistleblower a lot of it is downright terrifying

[SeventhSandwich]

I'm saying they're justified in calling it misogynist because the only women in the game are victims and villains and not even major characters. Yeah, they can be wrong or making a mountain of an anthole, but there are instances where it's absolutely justified.

There is one major character in the game. If you wanted to add a female character, it would require paying more modelers, more voice actors, more storyboard artists, and basically more of everything. Sometimes it's not about perpetuating some myth that women aren't heroes, it's just the reality of development.

so victims and villains

yeah it's still not really positive but at least it's not devoid of women?? Not sure which is better tbh

Statistically speaking, there are many more male villains than female villains, so if you're going to say that having a female villain is a negative representation of women, then you have to say the same thing about men. Of course the only alternative is to complain about how there aren't enough female villains, which doesn't make sense if you'll just turn around and complain about it being a negative representation of women. Hence the major failure of 'feminist media criticism': It's an endless cycle of complaining about stuff that artists couldn't fix even if they wanted to.

it's a movie literally about a guy being abused by women?? sounds like a lot of internalized fear to me

holy stuff are you for real?

[Buu]

holy stuff that's misogynist

it's a movie literally about a guy being abused by women?? sounds like a lot of internalized fear to me

and,yes, I would have said that it was misandrist if it were genderbent.

Might I ask if this is a parody? Regardless, I'm glad most things have moved past this level. :K

my point is that misogyny isn't as bad as it was and really most people who sorta display it didn't intend it.