Rising Lava Anniversary: Climbing Re-Added

[Swollow]

make it so you can like only right click once every 5 seconds but it gives you a little more of a dramatic boost, enough to jump a little higher

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[Zapk²]

Badspot had an interesting remark regarding Rising Lava in a Kalphiter drama:

You're focusing on technical minutiae that are completely unimportant.  This is one of the pitfalls of game dev - you need to work with what you have.  "I need X technology to make a game" is one of the lies people tell themselves so they don't have to try. 

Let's try a real world example:
Rising lava is a gamemode.  It's kinda fun but has some problems.  You would probably say that the problem is the water system isn't good enough and that Badspot needs to update the engine and make the water rise smoothly or code fluid dynamics or something.  Badspot won't do that, so you just throw up your arms blame all your problems on Badspot.  Why even bother working on a mod at all if Badspot won't "fix" the engine right?

What you really should be doing is refining the gameplay within the limitations of the tech you have.  You're stuck with planar lava with kind of dodgy movement.  Ok.  What's a gameplay problem?  Well everyone gets stuck in the staircase.  Why?  Because everyone wants to get to the roof of the skyscraper.  Why are they doing that?  It's the only safe spot.  Hmm, maybe there should be more than one safe spot.  Maybe the lava shouldn't always go to the top of the map so lower spots can be safe.  Maybe lava should go up and down.  Maybe announce how high it's going to go so people can plan where they're going to escape to.  Maybe give people something to collect so they have a reason to come down off the buildings - coins or something (gems?).  Maybe a lava proof suit powerup?  Maybe a rowboat that catches on fire after a bit?  Maybe a lava shark? 

Do you see how changing mindsets leads to actually developing a game? 

I will consider his suggestions, however they may not all be plausible with climbing.

[Zeblote]

however they may not all be plausible with climbing.

And that's why you remove the climbing to open the path for loads of cool new features.

Climbing makes everything else obsolete. There's no point doing anything if you can just spam right click and get up.

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I honestly feel that if you're gonna remove climbing then you might as well remove push brooms also, it's how people dodge etc.

[YK]

Badspot had an interesting remark regarding Rising Lava in a Kalphiter drama:
I will consider his suggestions, however they may not all be plausible with climbing.

Yes, let's ignore everyones suggestions and use Badspot's review because his opinion is more valid than five or so other people.

I also found the GameMode more fun when there wasn't climbing. With it, people get too many second chances, without it, it's more strategic that way. Makes people consider taking on another player in an extremely dangerous position.

Edit: Sorry for the agressive first paragraph, but it bothers me when people feed information to someone and it gets disregarded, I absolutely hate ignorance.

[Zapk²]

Yes, let's ignore everyones suggestions and use Badspot's review because his opinion is more valid than five or so other people.

The forget? I'm not prioritizing any suggestions, I'm looking at Badspot's because they seem fun.

[YK]

The forget? I'm not prioritizing any suggestions, I'm looking at Badspot's because they seem fun.

I made an edit, it's just occured to me over time that you've grown into a bigger richardhead than ever.

[XR-7]

I made an edit, it's just occured to me over time that you've grown into a bigger richardhead than ever.

Um...?

[Zapk²]

I made an edit, it's just occured to me over time that you've grown into a bigger richardhead than ever.

?!??!

What did I do wrong exactly?

[Zapk²]

Oh, I almost forgot.

YK is Scriode.

[Ipquarx]

If you're going to remove climbing then you should remove hypertower or whatever it's called altogether because it's just too difficult to get around without it.

[Lego lad]

Oh, I almost forgot.

YK is Scriode.

[Zeblote]

If you're going to remove climbing then you should remove hypertower or whatever it's called altogether because it's just too difficult to get around without it.

Do you mean hyper tower (the map with whirly paths and floating hollow cubes also filled with paths) or tower of heaven (the 5 cylinder towers that are extremely hard to climb without right click spam)?

[Zapk²]

Tower of Heaven is planned to be removed if climbing is voted out.

[Niblic²]

revamp the climbing so it's not just mindless spamming a wall + hovering up.

maybe add the ability to grab ledges and pull yourself up them? maybe add wall-jumping that requires you to jump wall to wall?

or maybe

add rocket jumping

just throwing the cards all over the table