Author Topic: Need parts for computer with 300 dollars  (Read 5788 times)

oh crap i forgot about psu. with my mobo and processor its 288 dollars.

oh crap i forgot about psu. with my mobo and processor its 288 dollars.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $296.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $296.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

do u think i can oc the i5 to play some more games?

do u think i can oc the i5 to play some more games?

Not without a better cooler. The i5 is more sensitive to overclocking and you have a larger risk of damaging it without adequate cooling. Plus, most of all, you will shorten its lifespan.

It'll be fine if you play on low settings for some games but you really really cannot game on integrated graphics.

Maybe you should go with the G3258 + GTX 750 Ti and get the i5 for christmas, that would be what I'd recommend. You'd just have to deal with the stuttering and turn down the graphics sometimes.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza CSAZ-206 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $297.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I changed the case also, you should like this new case. Its also the same price, but the initial cost ($350) went up a bit. Still, after rebates, it is still below $300. Hoping maybe your uncle will cover the extra $60 in exchange for getting those rebates when they come so you can get the PC.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 04:34:49 PM by Randomness »

do u think i can oc the i5 to play some more games?
no. what you need is more GPU, and you really can't overclock an integrated GPU (ok you can but it seems to be some sketchy stuff)

according to Eurogamer, it runs ok on high settings, but has noticeable stuttering. Eurogamer speculates that this may be because the Pentium doesn't have enough cores. This problem would be made worse in multiplayer, which is more CPU intensive.
With the Athlon x4, you of course have more cores to work with, and unlike the Pentium (at this present date), you can overclock it on a fairly cheap mobo. Of course, you need a beefier cpu cooler and wotnot, but that can be bought later (holidays?)

P.S. - Sorry for flip-flopping on CPUs. I kinda forgot overnight why I suggested the Athlon, lol.
The Athlon may have more cores, but it's still not faster than the Pentium. When Tomshardware benchmarked the G3258 and the 750K, the Pentium beat the Athlon even in multithreaded benchmarks, and completely thrashed it in single-threaded benches. The fact that the Pentium can overclock to 4.5GHz on the stock cooler speaks even more to its advantage.

The Athlon may have more cores, but it's still not faster than the Pentium. When Tomshardware benchmarked the G3258 and the 750K, the Pentium beat the Athlon even in multithreaded benchmarks, and completely thrashed it in single-threaded benches. The fact that the Pentium can overclock to 4.5GHz on the stock cooler speaks even more to its advantage.
I'm quite aware of the tom's hardware benches, and the results look great for the Pentium there, but in Eurogamer's test, which was with a G3258 and a 750Ti @ 900p (the very same specs that hillkill would end up with), there seemed to be issues with BF4. Look, I really like the Pentium, but it seems that without the Titan it's paired with in those benchmarks, it may have some minor issues. Feel free to throw more benchmarks my way if you think I'm way off base.

It does have some problems in that benchmark compared to the Intel quad-cores, but then again there's no comparison against the 750K; considering that the Pentium's multi-threaded performance in many cases is about the same as the Athlons, I kind of doubt it. On the other hand, there are some delays when the processor switches threads, but I'm not sure if that's what's causing the stuttering. I checked if Eurogamer reviewed the 750K, but sadly I couldn't find anything which is a shame considering it's the Pentiums closest competitor. There is however one BF4 gameplay video of a Pentium paired with a 660 ti running an MP game without any noticeable stuttering: http://youtu.be/2gzReaFZUIE . Of course, the 750 ti isn't a 660 ti, but some fiddling with the clock speeds may help that a little.
The Pentium also has the advantage of being easily upgradable; while the Athlon X4 is about the fastest chip you're going to get on FM2, the Pentium can be, as already mentioned, upgraded to an i5.
The big concern here is the overclockability of the B85 chipset. While we already know it's multiplier-unlocked, MSI themselves said it's the only overclocking available, and even though the boards do support OC Genie which is an indication that voltage control is enabled, it's in no way a guarantee, and the Pentium really needs a good OC to perform.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 07:17:17 PM by Pentium »


Looks pretty decent, although you forgot the RAM.
no he didn't
OP already has RAM

no he didn't
OP already has RAM

3 gb should be good for right now?

3 gb should be good for right now?
mine only has 2gb, and I get along fine with normal stuff
can't play many games though

no he didn't
OP already has RAM
3 gigs is not enough for BF4, and the RAM he has is really slow. Since DDR3 RAM isn't going to be produced for much longer it's best to upgrade ASAP rather than having to deal with the inflated prices later.

3 gigs is not enough for BF4, and the RAM he has is really slow. Since DDR3 RAM isn't going to be produced for much longer it's best to upgrade ASAP rather than having to deal with the inflated prices later.
I don't think anyone is trying to play BF4 on a $300 computer

3 gigs is not enough for BF4, and the RAM he has is really slow. Since DDR3 RAM isn't going to be produced for much longer it's best to upgrade ASAP rather than having to deal with the inflated prices later.

If he closes out of everything before gaming he can game a bit but I agree 3GB is kind of restricting.

Its recommended he upgrade both his RAM and his CPU this christmas.