Author Topic: What do you think of the minimum wage being lifted?  (Read 2340 times)

What's the minimum wage in the US? Is it the same all across the country or does it vary from state to state?

UK minimum wage is £6.31 ($10.67) an hour, for 21+, and £5.03 ($8.51) an hour for 18-20.
And that applies to all jobs, bar apprenticeships.
In my state it was $7.25 but I think they just changed it to $9.

I think you should say "raised" instead of "lifted"
Lifted, to me, suggests it being removed completely (like the way you'd describe a ban being lifted) and therefore employers could pay however little they want

Since a lot of people here are complaining about poor families with lots of children (who by the way aren't the only people who work at the minimum wage), why not consider a change to the view that China have on children?
You can have a limit to how many children you have, with large fines for going over that limit (twins and so forth don't count).

Or even require some form of qualification to have children? Meeting a minimum age, minimum intelligence (not talking genius levels here, just smart enough to not be likely to abuse a child), having a job, etc...?

What's the minimum wage in the US? Is it the same all across the country or does it vary from state to state?

UK minimum wage is £6.31 ($10.67) an hour, for 21+, and £5.03 ($8.51) an hour for 18-20.
And that applies to all jobs, bar apprenticeships.

The minimum wage here is $7.25 I believe, but for the most part it will vary from state to state. The problem is states are in charge of too much here, rather than the Federal Government being the one fully in charge. I do think what China is doing is right, but for any society that has a democracy, it completely ruins the point of a democratic society. The US doesn't exactly need a one baby policy either. Keep in mind, the US is a relatively huge country and one of the biggest in the world, and only a very small portion of it is filled with people. That means that we really are not densely populated. There is still so much empty, and barren land left in the United States. I don't think limiting the amount of people here will solve the problem, and I don't think adding qualifications to who can have children and who cannot will either, because again: that would ruin the point of a proper democracy.

Yes, but of course we go back to the part where you are usually a burger-flipper if you are a student who just needs a part-time job or you dropped out of high school.
It varies from state to state, and apparently we have a lesser minimum wage.

Believe it or not, in New Zealand and Australia they have much higher minimum wages than both Britain and America. In NZ it is $14.25, and in AU it is well over $16.

If a large company can't afford a couple dollar h/ increase to support higher minimum wages, they're running on a broken business model.

I don't think so, many companies have a certain percent of profit they need to make to keep running, and if you have to pay all those workers more; you are forced to either lay a lot of those people off, or shutdown the company due to there being no room for profits to be made.

In my state it was $7.25 but I think they just changed it to $9.

I know one of your state Senator's Al Franken is a big proponent of increasing the minimum wage.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2014, 07:22:28 PM by Caribou »

I know one of your state Senator's Al Franken is a big proponent of increasing the minimum wage.
ugh al franken is annoying

Applying for citizenship in Switzerland when I am older and moving there when stuff goes deep. (2nd generation, so I just basically get it when I am 18).

Or Sweden.

Probably Sweden.... or Australia.

Cost of living is going up, but wages are not. This is just creating poverty which drains the economy.

ugh al franken is annoying

well hes up for reelection this year and he's only up 10 points in the polls so uh go get people to vote

Cost of living is going up, but wages are not. This is just creating poverty which drains the economy.

raising the minimum wage just raises the price of basic goods

ugh al franken is annoying

Notice how he has stopped doing stand-up for 5 years. He really has proved to the people of the State of Minnesota that he can be taken seriously, which he is now.

Applying for citizenship in Switzerland when I am older and moving there when stuff goes deep. (2nd generation, so I just basically get it when I am 18).

Or Sweden.

Probably Sweden.... or Australia.

I know that the US will go downhill soon, and I wanna just get a dual-citizenship because I don't wanna loose my American citizenship. I'd either apply for New Zealander or Danish dual-US-citizenship.

raising the minimum wage just raises the price of basic goods

But it also increases purchasing power. Lifting people out of poverty helps more than a small increase in the price of goods hurts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/01/04/economists-agree-raising-the-minimum-wage-reduces-poverty/

norway, sweden, finland, germany, italy, austria, and switzerland all have no minimum wage and yet they seem to be pretty ok

Yes, but of course we go back to the part where you are usually a burger-flipper if you are a student who just needs a part-time job or you dropped out of high school.

Or if you can't find a job anywhere else

You can't always pick your job m8

I think Mass is like $8 or $8.25

norway, sweden, finland, germany, italy, austria, and switzerland all have no minimum wage and yet they seem to be pretty ok

I think they are doing fairly well without a minimum wage because healthcare is subsidized or free or about free, and education is again subsidized, or free and high quality. Happiness is another factor, there is a lot to be happy about in many of the European countries (not all). In America, we have a poor quality education system which by the way isn't free for college, and healthcare is very expensive and not free at all. The middle class is taxed too much, and get nothing with their taxes. I think the middle class is the most important in American society, without them it is just the top earners left. The middle class is what drives people to America.

What's the minimum wage in the US? Is it the same all across the country or does it vary from state to state?
The federal minimum wage is currently $7.25, with individual states having higher, equal, or lower minimum wages. When state & federal rates differ, the higher of the two applies.
Notice how he has stopped doing stand-up for 5 years. He really has proved to the people of the State of Minnesota that he can be taken seriously, which he is now.
I know that the US will go downhill soon, and I wanna just get a dual-citizenship because I don't wanna loose my American citizenship. I'd either apply for New Zealander or Danish dual-US-citizenship.
Geez louise, what is with you kids and "america's gonna implode!!1!" What, do ya think we're headed for 20% unemployment and Riddler II taking over?
norway, sweden, finland, germany, italy, austria, and switzerland all have no minimum wage and yet they seem to be pretty ok
I believe that in those countries, there's pretty strong unions that have effectively negotiated minimum wages in most industries. Totally different situation than the US.

Anyway, minimum wage should probably be indexed to inflation and be dependent on age. Don't really know though, as I'm not a labor economist.
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Anyway, minimum wage should probably be indexed to inflation and be dependent on age. Don't really know though, as I'm not a labor economist.

the minimum wage basically causes inflation because of both the increased price of goods and the increased volume of currency circulating