Poll

Should Citizens have the Right to bear Arms?

YE!
NE!

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I think killing should be illegal

I think killing should be illegal
nah how else will we get what we want

The US has, by far, the highest military budget in the world, with plenty of voluntary enlists to provide more than enough soldiers to defend it. Arming it's citizens to assist in war simply isn't necessary.
Highest budget doesn't necessarily mean the best army. China has a huge amount of manpower and could be a tough fight. I'm sure some militias and patriots with guns wouldn't hurt to have.
Right, cuz a loving assault rifle is going to stop, say, an aircraft. And god help us if you think everyone should be armed with loving rocket launchers
I was saying that wasn't possible.
If a foreign country wanted to invade and take land, they would have to be on the ground at some point.

Highest budget doesn't necessarily mean the best army. China has a huge amount of manpower and could be a tough fight. I'm sure some militias and patriots with guns wouldn't hurt to have.I was saying that wasn't possible.
If a foreign country wanted to invade and take land, they would have to be on the ground at some point.
I'm pretty sure the Military would detect them by then lol

I don't think any Non-Government sort of force should own Arms

I think everyone should totally have guns in case of alien invasion.

If a foreign country wanted to invade and take land, they would have to be on the ground at some point.
but wouldn't citizens be evacuated at that point

china won't start a war with us

Can we get back on topic

I own a gun but I find the people saying we should own guns so we can rise up against the government are delusional. I think we should be allowed to own guns but with restrictions and maybe require some sort of basic safety test.

I'm pretty sure the Military would detect them by then lol
obviously this is theoretical
but wouldn't citizens be evacuated at that point
at some point you can't evacuate any further

i'm not asking you. i want him to define what he thinks an assault rifles is. is that hard?
I'd understand if you were saying that in a "you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means" context, or in a way that is contradicting or otherwise confusing, but he's not. You're just randomly coming in and asking someone to define something, that doesn't need to be defined, because the meaning is clear


Highest budget doesn't necessarily mean the best army. China has a huge amount of manpower and could be a tough fight. I'm sure some militias and patriots with guns wouldn't hurt to have.I was saying that wasn't possible.
Yes, they have more foot soldiers. But they also have a smaller air force, smaller navy, much less tech capabilities, and less training

If a foreign country wanted to invade and take land, they would have to be on the ground at some point.
How useful do you expect untrained civilians to be against a trained and armed military? A government should specifically avoid having their civilians engage in military matters; provide them shelters, etc
but wouldn't citizens be evacuated at that point
or this

obviously this is theoretical
Can we please base laws off realistic scenarios, instead of theoretical ones?
Yes, arming every single civilian would theoretically help if we were to theoretically be invaded, but we shouldn't purposely be placing civilians in risk, we should be evacuating and protecting them. Additionally, arming civilians with military-grade weapons creates a lot of safety concerns; more than the tiny risk of an invasion can justify
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I own a gun but I find the people saying we should own guns so we can rise up against the government are delusional. I think we should be allowed to own guns but with restrictions and maybe require some sort of basic safety test.
Yes, We have a gun owner here, Lets here from your perspective:

Why do you think that the guns should be controlled, but not removed?

i'm not asking you. i want him to define what he thinks an assault rifles is. is that hard?

Just a minor edit. I meant assault weapon. And an assault weapon is a weapon that looks like a military-grade assault rifle, but does not function like one. People automatically assume that if it looks like a fully automatic weapon it is one. And also Assault Weapons can be made to fire grenades using a separate attachment.

I'd understand if you were saying that in a "you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means" context, or in a way that is contradicting or otherwise confusing, but he's not. You're just randomly coming in and asking someone to define something, that doesn't need to be defined, because the meaning is clear

no, apparently it isn't clear

none of these people who throw around "assault rifle" seem to know whether they're talking about automatic machineguns or automatic rifles or semi automatic rifles or bolt action rifles, they just drop in and say "HEY DUDES ~ASSAULT RIFLES~ ARE SCARY BAN THEM GOOD DAY"

Just a minor edit. I meant assault weapon. And an assault weapon is a weapon that looks like a military-grade assault rifle, but does not function like one. People automatically assume that if it looks like a fully automatic weapon it is one. And also Assault Weapons can be made to fire grenades using a separate attachment.

oh ok so because my rifle looks scary and functions like a generic hunting rifle it shouldn't be allowed? but if i just take the body apart and put a new one on it's okay?

+also last i checked grenades arent exactly legal
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