What do you think about gays?

[tnatsissA]

I should have just said "Gays are loud and annoying in Massachusetts" and left

You honestly shouldn't have even stepped into this thread.

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[morningstar]

I saw that coming. 
I agree

[Headcrab Zombie]

Haha, there is absolutely NO proof that people are born gay.......

[citation needed]

Well, there seems to be an abnormally high rate of homoloveuality among the regular posters and players of Blockland.

There isn't an abnormally high rate of homoloveuality, just that people can be much more open about it than they can in real life because of anonymity

Note the lack of any first world countries.
Those are the countries that matter.

What, did you just look "lol it's all africa and middle east" and not actually look at what individual countries are there?
Russia is there. Russia is a developed country
India is there. India is fairly developed. It still has areas that are developing, but some areas are fairly developed
Not all of africa is an undeveloped stuffhole, some of it is well developed

Notice how no one's being executed or imprisoned by the government?

That doesn't mean tons of people aren't been assaulted or even killed for their loveuality

Eventually all the states will turn but I seriously think Jobs, the Economy, and Healthcare are far more important issues right now.

It's not like only one issue can be discussed at a time.

a healthcare system that was implemented badly

The healthcare system is a decision made by the federal government.
The legality of same-love marriage is a decision (so far only) made by state governments.
Addressing one of these issues does not mean the other can't be addressed, as it's a different group handling it

Then let's stalk about economic problems. You think that can be solved quicker than the homoloveual rights problem? That's another problem I have is people that think issues on the national scale can be solved immediately. We've had deep stuff economic problems for at least a decade, what makes you think that the stoppage of recent uprising of gay rights could solve our economic problem faster? It's better to just pick away at the problems that can be easily solved. You said it yourself, there's momentum for legalization of gay marriage in states. But you shouldn't say that it isn't a problem that doesn't deserve to be at the forefront, when the economic problem has had its chance many many many times before. While politicians are squabbling about how to approach this issue for the thousandth time, gays are getting rights to marry in more and more states.

This. The ONLY obstacle to legalizing it is the people crying "WAH IT'S AGAINST MY RELIGION IN A COUNTRY THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO FORCE PEOPLE TO ONE RELIGIOUS STANDARD WAHHHHH"
If we didn't have that, it could be handled EXTREMELY fast.
Our economic issues isn't so simple

[DrenDran]

Russia is there. Russia is a developed country

I'm going to respond to the rest of your post but I'd just like to say the extent of Russia's issue is a law prohibiting material encouraging children to partake in deviant loveual practices. Note really comparable to death penalties, not how Russia isn't even coloured on the map lol.

That doesn't mean tons of people aren't been assaulted or even killed for their loveuality

Very small minority of people.
I mean it doesn't compare with the people killed for conventional reasons.

It's not like only one issue can be discussed at a time.

Yeah, Americans can handle two or maybe even three issues at a time!

The healthcare system is a decision made by the federal government.
The legality of same-love marriage is a decision (so far only) made by state governments.

Yeah, and you ever notice how we have the same political parties and structures for both our state and federal governments?

Then let's stalk about economic problems. You think that can be solved quicker than the homoloveual rights problem?

I do?!
Can't say I remember saying that.

That's another problem I have is people that think issues on the national scale can be solved immediately.

Once again, don't remember saying that.

We've had deep stuff economic problems for at least a decade, what makes you think that the stoppage of recent uprising of gay rights could solve our economic problem faster?

I don't think that a country facing serious economic problems should have recent uprisings of anything.
It needs to have it's priorities in line. It just seems selfish to come in demanding rights and scheduling your movement in the middle of a recession.

It's better to just pick away at the problems that can be easily solved.

And what? Ignore the harder problems? This is a very silly thing to say.

You said it yourself, there's momentum for legalization of gay marriage in states. But you shouldn't say that it isn't a problem that doesn't deserve to be at the forefront, when the economic problem has had its chance many many many times before. While politicians are squabbling about how to approach this issue for the thousandth time, gays are getting rights to marry in more and more states.

So basically the economic issues are both more important, and harder to solve?
Seems like all the more reason to give them the most attention.

[ShadowsfeaR]

Again we are dealing with the denial of rights given to us as a citizen of the US. I'd think that would be a pretty good reason for it to be just a little more prioritized than the slow moving economic problem right now. I didn't say the problem shouldn't be ignored, it's a big problem, but this is something we can solve pretty quickly, and is getting solved.

[DrenDran]

Again we are dealing with the denial of rights given to us as a citizen of the US. I'd think that would be a pretty good reason for it to be just a little more prioritized than the slow moving economic problem right now.

Seems like grandstanding to me.
The %1 or so of the population that's even affected by this issue have existed for hundreds of years without their rights. It doesn't suddenly just become a problem one decade then go away again. They can honestly wait a little longer. Sorry if that's cruel, but we got the other 99% of the country to care about right now.

I tend to view things in a bit more utilitarian way, disagreeing with the idea of 'rights'. But right now I think my stance isn't that far from that taken by anyone not involved with the LGBT movement.
but you know "muh rights" and stuff

[Jaxx]

Again we are dealing with the denial of rights given to us as a citizen of the US. I'd think that would be a pretty good reason for it to be just a little more prioritized than the slow moving economic problem right now. I didn't say the problem shouldn't be ignored, it's a big problem, but this is something we can solve pretty quickly, and is getting solved.

loving nothing is more important than a potential portending collapse of an already destabilized global financial system holy forget


also dren i'd just like to say i used to dislike you
i still do, but at least i somewhat agree with you now

[ShadowsfeaR]

loving nothing is more important than a potential portending collapse of an already destabilized global financial system holy forget


also dren i'd just like to say i used to dislike you
i still do, but at least i somewhat agree with you now

Jesus forget it's not like the problem of homoloveual rights isn't getting solved. I'm rationalizing the reason why it's being "prioritized" over the economic problem, which again, doesn't even have any foundation to be solved yet. And if it did, it's not going to just go *poof* solved. It's probably going to take another decade before we see any substantial improvement. I don't think basic loving rights can wait a decade.

[DrenDran]

Jesus forget it's not like the problem of homoloveual rights isn't getting solved. I'm rationalizing the reason why it's being "prioritized" over the economic problem, which again, doesn't even have any foundation to be solved yet. And if it did, it's not going to just go *poof* solved. It's probably going to take another decade before we see any substantial improvement. I don't think basic loving rights can wait a decade.

It's funny how people can still have decent lives without "basic loving rights".
It's funny how people can't even agree on what "basic loving rights" are. I mean first world countries like Germany, France and Austria limit free speech, free association, and have serious limitations on the right to bear arms, but hey, they're free first world democracies, right? People aren't too upset there, right?

I think the idea of "human rights" is kinda of flawed, honestly. It has us putting something that might improve the lives of %1 of the population before something will could seriously affect the ability of the entire population to get jobs, homes, and healthcare.

Not saying they shouldn't be able to get married. (Well, I don't think marriage is a good idea but w/e) Just that all the "their basic loving rights come before everything" talk should probably stop.

[Jaxx]

%1

^{pst the percent goes after the numbers}

[Headcrab Zombie]

the extent of Russia's issue is a law prohibiting material encouraging children to partake in deviant loveual practices.

Yeah that's the intent, but it makes so sense because loveuality simply doesn't work that way; you can't "teach" children to be gay
But the type of things they ban is very broad. People have been arrested just for displaying a rainbow flag.

Yeah, Americans can handle two or maybe even three issues at a time!Yeah, and you ever notice how we have the same political parties and structures for both our state and federal governments?

I'm not saying America's government is good. All I'm saying is that "Gay rights shouldn't be discussed because there are more important issues" is not a valid argument because there are completely separate groups addressing them

[DrenDran]

also dren i'd just like to say i used to dislike you
i still do, but at least i somewhat agree with you now

^{pst the percent goes after the numbers}

Really? So it's not like the dollar sign?
But then it'd make sense. Can't have that.

People have been arrested just for displaying a rainbow flag.

On an unrelated note they ruined rainbows lol

I'm not saying America's government is good. All I'm saying is that "Gay rights shouldn't be discussed because there are more important issues" is not a valid argument because there are completely separate groups addressing them

But that's a strawman. I only said they shouldn't be issue and priority number #1 not that they shouldn't be worked on at all.

[Oasis]

I don't understand how saying everyone has the right to get married under the law is affecting the economy.

[synthesispandabot]

I don't understand how saying everyone has the right to get married under the law is affecting the economy.

gay people buy more lube

[Jaxx]

I don't understand how saying everyone has the right to get married under the law is affecting the economy.

unrelated issues, discussing priorities