let's debate guns

[SlayerZ99]

if someone enters your home without your permission and they are unarmed, give them a VERBAL WARNING to leave if they dont, shoot. if they are armed, shoot that stupid forgeter right between the eyes

GIVE THEM A VERBAL WARNING???

How many people do you think are going to give a VERBAL WARNING to an intruder. this isnt kindergarten

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[Aces]

Reliable self defense isn't unnecessary.


Someone with no prior firearm training, or didn't heed respect towards firearm safety, sure.

Somebody who knows how to use guns and has safety training isn't likely to accidentally shoot anyone :n

You don't need firearm training to carry around a BB gun though.

And I doubt that there are many things that warrant you carrying a gun that the police can't help.
I could understand a mass shooting, but even those are in school zones mostly. I also don't know any other situation where a gun would guaruntee that I don't get harmed but you can give scenarios because there're probably alot that I can't think of right now.

[blockguy™]

GIVE THEM A VERBAL WARNING???

How many people do you think are going to give a VERBAL WARNING to an intruder. this isnt kindergarten

it's simple
"i am armed. i will give you one warning to get out of my house or you will be shot."

[Tayasaurus]

I'll trust civilians with guns when police stop being so trigger happy.

With that logic you shouldn't be trusting ANYONE with a gun. Police come from the populace. WE arm them with our tax dollars. Nobody is about to let them be the only ones who possess weapons of this manner.

With an increase in restrictions on firearms we more or less empower irresponsible groups or persons by making two classes of people simply by the weapons they are allowed to carry.

[SlayerZ99]

it's simple
"i am armed. i will give you one warning to get out of my house or you will be shot."

fair enough

i dont think people would be that ca lm though

[Harm94]

There is no purpose for owning more than a handgun other than hunting.

1. Long range self defense
2. Sport/Range Shooting

Your point about the stuff in public is pretty fair. Those guys wearing the weapons on street corners protesting the government, or open carrying in a starbucks are nothing more than complete flamboyant richards and mall ninjas.

However in many places you can just walk around with a gun. You have to check with law enforcement and get an approved conceal carry license. To get one you have to have a legitimate reason for having one.

Legimate reasons might be:
1. You are a security contractor/body guard
2. Multiple attempts on your life have been made by gangs
3. You are politicians who is too poor to afford body guards

Depending on the state like California, you don't need a conceal permit if are a business owner and you want to defend your home and business.

on full-auto weapons:
Any weapon that is fully automatic, fires explosive projectiles, has a large barrel, shoots flames, etc is considered a destructive device and labeled as a class 3 weapon. These weapons are illegal to own. However you can posses these weapons by applying for a permits to own one these. You have to go through a very deep background check and you have to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp.
On home defense: If you are smart, you don't have to kill the intruder. You can just point the gun at them and tell the leave. If just tell them to leave while being under armed that won't send as strong of a message. You can only kill someone in your home if you feel like your life is in danger and killing the person was the only option left.

[blockguy™]

fair enough

i dont think people would be that ca lm though

probably not but people who haven't dealt with shooting someone/having someone in their home would have shot the intruder armed or not

[Epicduke]

i think automatic(?) rifles should be restricted and mental checks should be required

[Caribou]

I think that they should be regulated, and that there should be strict background checks, and mental health checks as well as physical checks implemented. Other than that - the right to bare arms shouldn't be taken away from us, or minimized.

[blockguy™]

castle doctrine is the most important rule to remember during self defense imo

[Tayasaurus]

i think automatic(?) rifles should be restricted and mental checks should be required

all of this and more are already in effect.

[The Resonte!]

can i use this to protect myself

[IkeTheGeneric]

You don't need firearm training to carry around a BB gun though.

It's usually a misdemeanor to carry bb guns openly in public.

And I doubt that there are many things that warrant you carrying a gun that the police can't help.

The police can't address crime immediately, self defense is more important than you'd like to think.

I could understand a mass shooting, but even those are in school zones mostly.

School shootings don't happen often enough to be a factor, though.

I also don't know any other situation where a gun would guaruntee that I don't get harmed but you can give scenarios because there're probably alot that I can't think of right now.

Any situation where you're attacked and the police cannot respond immediately. If somebody attacked you without a firearm with intent to kill you, your survival chances would depend mostly on if you can defend yourself.

Not saying this situation is likely, because it's realllllly unlikely.

[Harm94]

i think automatic(?) rifles should be restricted and mental checks should be required

I think that they should be regulated, and that there should be strict background checks, and mental health checks as well as physical checks implemented. Other than that - the right to bare arms shouldn't be taken away from us, or minimized.

They is already tough regulation and background checks in place. Fully automatic weapons are not things you can buy off the shelf like bread.

[Bisjac]

the second amendment has nothing to do with home defence.
its purpose was entirely to match us against our own corrupt government if and when the time came.

the fact that they have better weapons then us is unconstitutional.
abd its no surprise they want to ban as many weapons as posible. they need the advantage over us.