Author Topic: Ferrari threatened "cease and desist" on Deadmau5 over "Purrari 458"  (Read 7752 times)

The logo can be re-applied, you know that right?
oh my god did i just not argue this a couple of pages ago?

You can stand by your opinions, and then you can be a nuisance.

Sorry for tarnishing your eyes with a relevant discussion in the relevant thread. We should all just have a circlejerk with the majority. Different opinions should be against the forum rules.

Grab a handful of testicles and engage in the discussion.

yes they don't the only thing that will ever hurt their reputation is them making a bad car
for that matter, the only people who seem upset about it are the people who apparently love Ferrari so much that they would dislike the company for something a customer did to their own car. which is absurd

Beyond the fact that the nyan-cat wrap isn't the (full) problem, you're not getting it. Seriously. You can't have famous icons running around making your company look like a joke. I don't want to insult your intelligence by reading out the definition of publicity to you.

People have "customized" their cars with My Little Pony decals, making a complete laughing stock of their respective producers, yet nobody has given any of those losers a C&D.
I don't see why this exception has to be made for deadmau5.

Are you asking me what the difference is between a random brony and an iconic EDM producer?

Do I have to explain it to you?

Again, one out of the how many cars they make
this won't matter in the long run, I don't think a C&D was nessecary

If you can't keep up with the points I'm making then please don't try and engage with me. I've covered this several times now.
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So you're saying my opinion is wrong



Beyond the fact that the nyan-cat wrap isn't the problem, you're not getting it. Seriously. You can't have famous icons running around making your company look like a joke. I don't want to insult your intelligence by reading out the definition of publicity to you.



Ferrari hasn't done a C&D after these

So you're saying my opinion is wrong

No, I'm saying I've already covered why I think your opinion is wrong from my personal perspective in a previous engagement, and I don't wish to read it out to you again.

Ferrari hasn't done a C&D after these


Not entirely sure what the deal is here. Did Volvo rip off the Ferrari symbol?
Lets just say Volvo is a little bit larger than Deadmau5.



Not entirely sure what the deal is here. Did Volvo rip off the Ferrari symbol?
Lets just say Volvo is a little bit larger than Deadmau5.
except volvo isn't making them
they're being made and sold by a third party individual

I don't think Ferrari can claim intellectual ownership on a sticker that has a similar design to their logo.

I don't think Ferrari can claim intellectual ownership on a sticker that has a similar design to their logo.
then how can they claim intellectual ownership on a purrari badge?

because it's on their car

that they built

Rally is being edgy with his auto special interest.

MacBooks have the apple logo on them and people cover that up all the time with stickers. Some people mod the MacBook. That doesn't make them C&D
I don't understand leases though so is that the problem here?

Rally is being edgy with his auto special interest.

Are you gonna scrape a point together or just keep insulting me?
I don't even know anything about cars. I really don't care about them. This isn't even about cars. Jesus man.

MacBooks have the apple logo on them and people cover that up all the time with stickers. Some people mod the MacBook. That doesn't make them C&D
I don't understand leases though so is that the problem here?

Are you equating a (well known) music producer's effigy of an expensive sports car to an average joe putting stickers on his personal computer? Don't make me insult your intelligence by spelling this out for you.

rally uh i don't know about you but if i were ferrari CEO even if i thought people's modifications to my cars look like ass i couldn't really do anything about it if they bought it with their own money. if they leased it, yeah i'd tell them to either get rid of their stuffty mods or return the car so the mechanics can get rid of them.
heck i'd be glad people actually want to modify my cars. that means they either care enough to make my cars better/less stuffty or like my car enough that they want to make it their own.

Are you equating a (well known) music producer's effigy of an expensive sports car to an average joe putting stickers on his personal computer? Don't make me insult your intelligence by spelling this out for you.
1. what's with the hostility? you don't need to resort to personal attacks.
2. this comparison works completely fine. both an apple laptop and a ferrari are expensive items people can own (one is a lot more expensive, but the point still stands). both can be modified, including distasteful stickers and rebranding (ferrari to purrari, as perhaps apple to banana). the fact that a popular music producer is modding his car as a publicity stunt doesn't really change this.

if anything, deadmau5 isn't making the ferrari company a joke, he's only making his ferrari a joke.
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rally uh i don't know about you but if i were ferrari CEO even if i thought people's modifications to my cars look like ass i couldn't really do anything about it if they bought it with their own money. if they leased it, yeah i'd tell them to either get rid of their stuffty mods or return the car so the mechanics can get rid of them.
heck i'd be glad people actually want to modify my cars. that means they either care enough to make my cars better/less stuffty or like my car enough that they want to make it their own.

I mean, that's nice and all, different managing styles I guess, but at the end of the day you want to cater to a serious image when you're selling serious product. Not memes.

I don't think Ferrari has a problem with personalization. If they did, they probably wouldn't allow them to make any modifications to the car or debadge them at all. What Deadmau5 has done is a direct reflection on Ferrari.

1. what's with the hostility? you don't need to resort to personal attacks.

No I was legitimately trying to not be condescending, I think we all can assume that Mister Cheese knows there's a difference between legitimately famous renowned music producers and average joes. I felt like it'd be calling him legitimately handicapped to assume he doesn't know that.

2. this comparison works completely fine. both an apple laptop and a ferrari are expensive items people can own (one is a lot more expensive, but the point still stands). both can be modified, including distasteful stickers and rebranding (ferrari to purrari, as perhaps apple to banana).

And I'm sure if someone influential was to start advertising a gimmick of said product then Apple would have a problem with it. The difference between a Mac and a sports car is that Mac's are generally advertised on the television, not by celebrities or media. A sports car, however, is a moving billboard for the company.

So no, the brown townogy doesn't really work.

I mean, that's nice and all, different managing styles I guess, but at the end of the day you want to cater to a serious image when you're selling serious product. Not memes.
then i'd make my cars look serious. one guy tricking out his car to make it look like a joke would not impact this, at least significantly. most of the time people are going to see a ferrari go by (like blockzillahead) and say things like "that is a very serious car!" and "that car looks very well-designed!". then they see idiots modifying their ferraris and be like "wow. what a waste of perfectly good ferrari." the thing they're focusing on isn't the car having awful modifications, it's that a third party actually thought this was a good idea.

I don't think Ferrari has a problem with personalization. If they did, they probably wouldn't allow them to make any modifications to the car or debadge them at all. What Deadmau5 has done is a direct reflection on Ferrari.
a parody is not an infringed copyright. Purarri is a parody of Ferarri, it's not it's own company, it's not in any way related to any other company and looks different enough from the original car's logo to be defined as a parody of the original.

No I was legitimately trying to not be condescending, I think we all can assume that Mister Cheese knows there's a difference between legitimately famous renowned music producers and average joes. I felt like it'd be calling him legitimately handicapped to assume he doesn't know that.
i don't know about you but
I don't want to insult your intelligence by reading out the definition of publicity to you.
isn't necessary in any civilized argument.

The difference between a Mac and a sports car is that Mac's are generally advertised on the television, not by celebrities or media. A sports car, however, is a moving billboard for the company.

So no, the brown townogy doesn't really work.
alright i'll give you that one, though sports cars are also advertised on television.