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Having trouble with numbers can lead to errors in a mathematical equation.
not knowing how to spell can also lead to errors in English

Then in what way does it make you worse?
It said it was people who have trouble with numbers.
It's like people with dyslexia. They can still read and write, but make mistakes and take longer to work something out (such as spelling) and get it correct.

On an IQ test it will still limit you since you'll be slower (and some IQ tests time people, or give a time limit).
Someone with Dyscalculia can still do maths, but it might take them longer to work it out. It's not a total disability.

Having trouble with numbers can lead to errors in a mathematical equation.
It's like people with dyslexia. They can still read and write, but make mistakes and take longer to work something out (such as spelling) and get it correct.

On an IQ test it will still limit you since you'll be slower (and some IQ tests time people, or give a time limit).
Someone with Dyscalculia can still do maths, but it might take them longer to work it out. It's not a total disability.
So basically Ningyou is worse (including being slower) at math and a test shows that.
How does that invalidate the test at all?

Then in what way does it make you worse?
It said it was people who have trouble with numbers.
I don't have the insight normal people have because of something in my brain which led to my dyscalculia. Normally, people who see 14 + 9 can solve this within seconds and I cannot. A lot of times I also miscalculate.

I basically meant I find it ridiculous when people match your IQ to your cleverness.

So basically Ningyou is worse (including being slower) at math and a test shows that.
How does that invalidate the test at all?
I never said that math tests are invalid because people have legitimate trouble with mathematics though?

I thought it was pretty obvious that having a deficiency with math made you worse at calculations but that doesn't necessarily make you worse with understanding math.

So basically Ningyou is worse (including being slower) at math and a test shows that.
How does that invalidate the test at all?
Because an IQ test is often used as the be-all and end-all of judging someones ability.
You can score poorly on an IQ test due to something like dyscalculia, and the verdict is you're a handicap who can't do maths.

When in reality you can. You may need a bit more time, but that doesn't mean you won't still get to the same place as someone without dyscalculia.
And furthermore, if being poor on maths due to dyscalculia lowers your IQ it also gives the appearance that you're bad at everything else on the IQ test too. You could be a genius in literature, or science, but be held back in maths by dyscalculia.

I basically meant I find it ridiculous when people match your IQ to your cleverness.
It's an all around measure of Intelligence, and it's better than nothing when you want to know the intelligence of a person or group of people. I'm not exactly sure how if at all "cleverness" is supposed to contrast with that.
Because an IQ test is often used as the be-all and end-all of judging someones ability.
You can score poorly on an IQ test due to something like dyscalculia, and the verdict is you're a handicap who can't do maths.

When in reality you can. You may need a bit more time, but that doesn't mean you won't still get to the same place as someone without dyscalculia.
And furthermore, if being poor on maths due to dyscalculia lowers your IQ it also gives the appearance that you're bad at everything else on the IQ test too. You could be a genius in literature, or science, but be held back in maths by dyscalculia.
I'm pretty sure there's different tests for each category. I've never actually gotten a one number IQ test and don't know anyone who has.
Ultimately there should be a way to measure intelligence, even if its divided up into a few categories. And if its a good test then it will show certain people as being worse.

IQ tests only test one mode of intelligence, which is being able to remember stuff and do math

you can score a 150 and still have 0 social intelligence.

you shouldn't judge someone's character on an IQ test, but you can judge that specific area of intelligence

Well this thread has been derailed spectacularly.

I don't have the insight normal people have because of something in my brain which led to my dyscalculia.
I basically meant I find it ridiculous when people match your IQ to your cleverness.
I've heard of this before actually. Being a TA for my school's directed studies courses, I was wondering how is it people could be so incompetent when it comes to basic arithmetics (one guy still can't understand the concept of division and multiplication) yet find english/biology a breeze. only once did anyone mention that though, but I guess that's the case  :iceCream:


I've heard of this before actually. Being a TA for my school's directed studies courses, I was wondering how is it people could be so incompetent when it comes to basic arithmetics (one guy still can't understand the concept of division and multiplication) yet find english/biology a breeze. only once did anyone mention that though, but I guess this explains that  :iceCream:
LMAO

I think he might have a real bad case of dyscalculia :cookieMonster:

I'm actually doing a test now and this is what I mean:



I see the pattern going on but I'm struggling really bad lol
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I'm actually doing a test now and this is what I mean:



I see the pattern going on but I'm struggling really bad lol
is it summation or what?

is it summation or what?
No, it's just a pattern.

All of the numbers in the pattern being with 2.
The number of digits increases each time, from 2 (20) to 3 (202) to 4 (2000) and so on.
The final digit in a number alternates between 0 and 2 - (20, 202, 2000, 20002)

The next number therefore begins with 2, is six digits long, and ends in 0.
Therefore it is a) 200000

About the IQ debate, I don't think IQs should be taken seriously, since there's always been a trend of intelligence moving higher and higher towards the right side of the bell curve over many years, causing it to adjust so that 100 is the average again, as well as having differing IQ tests that could have a IQ difference significant enough to change people's perception of you, even if you could take these tests at the same time.

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I do believe Education is the main way to break poverty, though.


One big example: My own father.

You see, my father is profoundly deaf, all 60 years of his life to now, and he can't speak one coherent English word.

He was born to a hearing family, and as the youngest of 5 brothers and 6 sisters.

They were a poor family, for example, one bed shared by all the brothers and sisters.

All of his brothers were hearing and went to schools like any other kid, while Dad went to a oral-training school,
and he apparently didn't enjoy that, hearing from him.

He didn't learn any real language until he got transferred to another school, a ASL-oriented one, in the 6th grade.

There his character grew tenfold, going from a mute mimic to the school basketball star, taking up so many sports and keeping good/excellent grades.

In the end, Dad was the only one to graduate from high school among his brothers in 1973, because he cared about the future.

A long story short later (40+ years after graduation, no less) , his brothers are worse off, either poor/homeless or even dead at a early age, and Dad seems to be the most successful of them all.

We're not rich, but the fact that all of his children has their own beds (and after they moved out, took college education with financial scholarships) , shows that Dad worked his way out of poverty to be able to support that, let alone computers, phones, and televisions, food, water, things that my father had to worry about while he was my age, as well has his emphasis on education, has he told me numerous times through my life.

For me, Dad started to end the cycle of poverty on his family through education,
and I think it's my turn to finish it in the same means.

Actions speak louder than words, after all.

And an IQ test is just words.

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Long wall of text cut short:

Education is important and essential to ending poverty; while IQs are not good indicators of max potential intelligence.

You can have an IQ of 120 or more, but unless you train for things to do, and learn from things you study,and most importantly actually doing it, you'll probably never be good at anything.