The best "I do not consent" video yet.

[Frankie²]

i understand the concept of privacy. i see no reason to abuse it for the sake of, what, your pride or something?

yeah man
why have curtains in your house
or doors
i hate when people abuse their privacy...

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[$trinick]

i understand the concept of privacy. i see no reason to abuse it for the sake of, what, your pride or something?

It has nothing to do with pride it has to do with sense of privacy. Again, it has nothing to do with the information that is obtained. It has to do with the idea that you can feel secure without people looking through your stuff -- whatever it is or may be.

[Kishgal]

i dunno, normal human emotions maybe?

lame

yeah man
why have curtains in your house
or doors
i hate when people abuse their privacy...

my curtains are for keeping the light out of my eyes.
the doors are so people aren't just waltzing in and stealing my things. i mean, they didn't keep people out anyway before, so that's why there's an alarm now too. if people in general were trustworthy, i would love to have the house open to get some fresh air in here.

Again, it has nothing to do with the information that is obtained.

i never said it did

It has to do with the idea that you can feel secure without people looking through your stuff -- whatever it is or may be.

paranoia then? why didn't you just say you were paranoid, then.

[$trinick]

What did I even imply that I was paranoid about? I'm genuinely curious where you read that in what I said. I didn't say I was afraid that everyone would look through my stuff, and even if I did that wouldn't even constitute paranoia. Paranoia would be that I think everyone is always looking through my stuff without my permission.

edit: whoops grammar

[DrenDran]

Can I just say quickly that I support the authoritarian concept of social utility rather than the libertarian concept of human rights?
Human rights are a social construct, and people are capable of having great lives even without things many would consider "basic rights".

[_Rave_]

Can I just say quickly that I support the authoritarian concept of social utility rather than the libertarian concept of human rights?
Human rights are a social construct, and people are capable of having great lives even without things many would consider "basic rights".

Assuming you define a "great life" as progressing knowledge and succeeding at things you are correct; however, many people would define a "great life" as a life in which you are free to do whatever you want.  I side with the latter group - I value control over my life above all over things.

[#Ravencroft]

Kishgal either one of three things:
- A troll
- Legitimately handicapped
- Or the most likely option, a 14 year old kid that has no net worth or important personal belonging, such as a car, house, etc. Therefore resulting in him having no reason to actually care about his rights considering he has nothing to lose. So most likely he's just an ignorant kid.

[Kishgal]

how dare people have opinions other than mine! obviously they are mentally disturbed!

[#Ravencroft]

how dare people have opinions other than mine! obviously they are mentally disturbed!

Nah you seriously have something wrong with you if you're not trolling

[Kishgal]

Nah you seriously have something wrong with you if you're not trolling

uh huh

[Zharthon]

 
 Police Officer: Sir, please step out of the car, I believe that I smell illegal narcotics in there.

 Citizen: But I don't wanna, I definately have nothing to hide nor am I worried about you finding anything illegal in my car.

 Honestly, this person could have made his life easier by stepping out of the car, and allowing the Police Officer to search it, I mean if he doesn't have anything that's illegal in his car, then why is he yelling 'HELP, HELP' and 'I DO NOT CONSENT', he could have complied, knowing that the Police Officer will take care of his personal belongings, and watch out in-order to not break them.

 I am poss-- I am definately going to get a stuffstorm over my head because 'Privacy' and 'Laws' of 'MURICA.

 PS: This person doesn't even deserve custody of his child or even in the correct mental-state to drive a car, 'I do not consent' in this case translates to, 'Yes, I am commiting a crime but I will use loop-hole in the law to get away with it.'

[DrenDran]

Assuming you define a "great life" as progressing knowledge and succeeding at things you are correct; however, many people would define a "great life" as a life in which you are free to do whatever you want.  I side with the latter group - I value control over my life above all over things.

That first definition isn't bad, actually. Some might desire a night watchman state that pretty much only exists to prevent crime. In my case I'd like to think the government should set common goals for all their people as well as trying to get as many needs (could be food and water, security, or ultimately self-actualization) of as many people as possible met.

[Squideey]

I'm also pissed that this idiot traumatized his own child for no reason.

[SeventhSandwich]

At this point, Kishgal's opinion is completely irrelevant. How he views privacy is completely out-of-line with how everyone else in the United States views privacy. Our society makes laws for the people, and we as human beings value the right to privacy. In the most literal sense of the word, nobody cares what you have to say.

[DrenDran]

how everyone else in the United States views privacy

Well I wouldn't say everyone. Not by a long shot. If that was the case then the NSA would never have been allowed to exist.
Also, the United States is only one country.

and we as human beings value the right to privacy.

This is actually a relatively new concept.

It's disturbing how someone can look at what they believe and what they've learned from living in one country and assume all people from all places in all times shared a similar set of values. That's pretty ignorant, sorry mate.