Masculinist/Feminist Megathread- COEXISTENCE IS ABOVE ALL

[Aces]

My argument is that individuality is far, far, more than what clothes you wear for a few hours during the weekday.

It's still a form of expression that others can appreciate.

And people not dressing the way that the school wants them to doesn't necessarily warrant a dress code or uniform.

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[Foxscotch]

i support the idea of MRA because men aren't equal in certain ways (like in divorce court)

this is actually ironically loveist. like not in the way you probably think I mean
cus at least in my opinion, that sorta stuff seems to say that the woman needs help surviving without a man. like she can't get by if she doesn't have help from her ex husband? or gets more than half of the possessions? or whatever

[Camel]

this is actually ironically loveist. like not in the way you probably think I mean
cus at least in my opinion, that sorta stuff seems to say that the woman needs help surviving without a man. like she can't get by if she doesn't have help from her ex husband? or gets more than half of the possessions? or whatever

a lot of divorce stuff is still stuck in the mentality that men are the bread winners. you rarely hear "when i divorced him, he totally forgeted me over".

[DrenDran]

It's just expression. Clothes may not define you but how you present yourself says a lot about you.

It's still a form of expression that others can appreciate.

And people not dressing the way that the school wants them to doesn't necessarily warrant a dress code or uniform.

Still, the positive side to allowed it doesn't really seem that great.
You don't really get anything from "expressing your individuality" in that way.

Since it doesn't have any real benefit, if it causes problems just don't allow it anymore.

[ultimamax]

this is actually ironically loveist. like not in the way you probably think I mean
cus at least in my opinion, that sorta stuff seems to say that the woman needs help surviving without a man. like she can't get by if she doesn't have help from her ex husband? or gets more than half of the possessions? or whatever

I was thinking more like getting custody of children, which could also be regarded as misogyny (women as caretakers) but they negatively affect men, not women, so I consider them masculinist issues as well as feminist issues. (and it's not like you see feminist fighting for men's rights issues) But yeah alimony and stuff could be regarded as misogyny as well.

[Aces]

Still, the positive side to allowed it doesn't really seem that great.
You don't really get anything from "expressing your individuality" in that way.

Since it doesn't have any real benefit, if it causes problems just don't allow it anymore.

Dressing up isn't supposed to have any sort of benefit "in that way" though. It's a personal decision in schools that allow it and I don't really see what kind of major problems wearing a t-shirt could bring forth.

Uniforms just cause the problem of another rule not being followed, creating an actual problem.

No dress code means there is nothing to get in trouble for (within reason)

[Camel]

No dress code means there is nothing to get in trouble for (within reason)

i can see how that "within reason" is something that a school should specify, you know? ambiguity just causes more problems

[Aces]

i can see how that "within reason" is something that a school should specify, you know? ambiguity just causes more problems

Like showing up in all fish-net

or in a full suit of armor
or naked

[DrenDran]

Uniforms just cause the problem of another rule not being followed, creating an actual problem.

Maybe there should be some discipline simply for the purpose of discipline?

No dress code means there is nothing to get in trouble for (within reason)

Virtually all schools have dress codes. Are you not only arguing against uniforms but also against all dress codes?
Also "within reason" is a terrible phrase for rules, you need to state things specifically or else people can just enforce the rule at a whim. (e.g. if i disproportionately stop black children for not dressing "within reason" there's little you can do to prove me wrong)

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dress code: don't show your private parts


that's all you need.

[DrenDran]

dress code: don't show your private parts


that's all you need.

Does that include women's nipples but not mens?


Even if that's answered, I doubt going in with just a thong is okay lol
Would make a fine anime though, I'm sure

[16-Bit Yoshi]

Does that include women's nipples but not mens?


Even if that's answered, I doubt going in with just a thong is okay lol
Would make a fine anime though, I'm sure

I'm pretty sure he means "Have public decency" or something.
Plus I hardly believe anyone would loving walk into school in just a thong.

[Aces]

Dress codes in schools differ. My school requires collared shirts, while others won't.
Our school calls the collared shirt requirement the "dress code"

If you look in to any student handbook you'll find an outline of what you obviously can't wear. I guess you could call that the dress code but in general dress codes are very specific.

I also assumed that since I'm not a superintendent for a school who is actually writing a dress code that people would have the common sense to discern what they consider reasonable attire and unreasonable attire and make their conclusions from that but I could maybe list them out.

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Does that include women's nipples but not mens?


Even if that's answered, I doubt going in with just a thong is okay lol
Would make a fine anime though, I'm sure

includes all nipples, butts, roosters and vaginas.
go in a bikini if you want. just your underwear and a shirt. go for it. have fun.