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Holy stuff I forgot how passionate metal heads are about their stuff. Unless you want to make your way up the ladder by playing small gigs at biker bars, get into a music genre lots of people can like, and can be played for at any venue.

Unless you have no interest in progressing your drumming career then you can crack on  :iceCream:

Lol are you loving serious. Being able to play metal has more skill than any other loving genre out there. For any instrument. There are a plethora of incredibly talented drummers who play metal who have gone "places" you ignorant twat.
Metal has low sense of rhythm, and is just really fast beats. The drum tracks sound and look hard but are much simpler than they actually are. There's no need to be calling me names, that isn't going to win you an argument. Also, I never said it
doesn't take talent to play metal music. Of course it does, it takes talent to play most forms of music. I'm just saying that there are plenty of other genres of music that are more appealing to the general populace that are just as hard if not more than metal.

Also not to mention that metal is also one of the hardest genres to gain publicity in.
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Holy stuff I forgot how passionate metal heads are about their stuff. Unless you want to make your way up the ladder by playing small gigs at biker bars, get into a music genre lots of people can like, and can be played for at any venue.

Unless you have no interest in progressing your drumming career then you can crack on  :iceCream:
You are clueless.

not my kinda music but still real nice nonetheless

Holy stuff I forgot how passionate metal heads are about their stuff. Unless you want to make your way up the ladder by playing small gigs at biker bars, get into a music genre lots of people can like, and can be played for at any venue.

Unless you have no interest in progressing your drumming career then you can crack on  :iceCream:
Metal has low sense of rhythm, and is just really fast beats. The drum tracks sound and look hard but are much simpler than they actually are. There's no need to be calling me names, that isn't going to win you an argument. Also, I never said it
doesn't take talent to play metal music. Of course it does, it takes talent to play most forms of music. I'm just saying that there are plenty of other genres of music that are more appealing to the general populace that are just as hard if not more than metal.

Also not to mention that metal is also one of the hardest genres to gain publicity in.

People play music to play music, not gain publicity. If you treat music like some cash cow, you're going to get no where other than pop. Or pop metal if you wanna be that guy ahem Black Veil Brides. Metal is about passion and aggression. It doesn't need to be fast. At all. It just needs to carry a kind of aggression, which is usually via the guitar tone.

Matt Halpern, founder of Bandhappy, a website where you can get live video lessons, especially those from people in bands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlSU6aABRc
Arguably one of the most talented drummers today. Alongside Jay Postones, Matt Gartska, Travis Orbin, and Alex Rudinger.

He is the drummer for Periphery, a progressive metal outfit who is a conglomerate of incredibly talented musicians:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zytAj1N--Y

These guys make music because they want to. They have a label that gives them 99% musical creative freedom. They couldn't give a forget whether or not their sales did well because of their music. They approach it as "Well if people like out music, fantastic! If they don't, oh well."

TesseracT, their latest album doesn't even use unclean vocals, and most of it isn't even fast. Considered one of the best albums in progressive metal.

Intervals, who started out as an instrumental band, then added a vocalist who also does all clean singing. Incredibly talented musicians with immense creativity.

Animals as Leaders, who is a three man instrumental band with, probably, the best musicians on the planet. Tosin Abasi is probably the modern day Jimi Hendrix, sans drugs. He has literally made guitar techniques. This is one of their many slower songs.

Mean's End, a band who literally took a latin choir piece, got help from the composer himself, and made it metal. Robert Luciani has one of the most powerful voices in metal, alongside Ashe O'Hara (TesseracT), Spencer Sotelo (Periphery), and Mike Semesky (Intervals). This music isn't even fast either.

The Contortionist, who has changed immensely over the past three albums, the most recent one being an incredibly important album to metal. Fusing elements of jazz and metal together in a way not commonly seen since Cynic. People are in a love hate relationship with them because they changed so much. A lot of people who have been a die-hard fan of their first album hate the recent one because it isn't "heavy" enough or some stuff. Because they changed. They changed their sound because they wanted to explore uncharted territory and please their own tastes. This music isn't fast.

All these guys make music because they want to, not for the fans. Not for the notoriety. For themselves. Fans are a warmly welcomed byproduct of their hard work. They push the boundaries of their instruments to do something new and amazing. And its all metal.

Yeah dude. You got me. Guess you're right, metal is bullstuff because it's just yelling at the top of your lungs, anyone can do that. Can't believe I didn't see that before.
you know me, always get you by surprise


I'm sure all those drummers at one point in their career played music that was not metal. I'm not saying you can't be passionate about metal either, of course you can. It is a different genre of music that some people like and some don't, that's fine.
You're absolutely missing the point of my post.

These guys make music because they want to. They have a label that gives them 99% musical creative freedom. They couldn't give a forget whether or not their sales did well because of their music. They approach it as "Well if people like out music, fantastic! If they don't, oh well."
I still don't understand why people make music without wanting to make it big

I believe the only reason to make music is to make money. I don't believe in this "I do it because I love it". yeah we all love the money$$$ it brings in

I still don't understand why people make music without wanting to make it big

I believe the only reason to make music is to make money. I don't believe in this "I do it because I love it". yeah we all love the money$$$ it brings in
Everything comes down to money in the world, and no one can deny it.

Also to add to my point, take Buddy Rich for example. He was internationally named the world's best drummer, and never played metal. He played jazz, which is a much more complex genre than metal as it has intense grooves and difficult rhythms.

He played jazz, which is a much more complex genre than metal as it has intense grooves and difficult rhythms.

If you clicked even one of those videos I linked (which I'm sure you intentionally ignored <3), you would see otherwise. Hell, I even said The Contortionist mixed jazz and metal. Another Animals as Leaders song that has undeniable complex rhythm.

I still don't understand why people make music without wanting to make it big

I believe the only reason to make music is to make money. I don't believe in this "I do it because I love it". yeah we all love the money$$$ it brings in

They want to make music because they loving do. How is it some inane concept? Its not like they can't have secondary jobs. Misha Mansoor and Adam "Nolly" Getgood of Periphery work in production and mastering in Top Secret Audio. Same thing with Acle Kahney of TesseracT, in 4DSounds.
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I still don't understand why people make music without wanting to make it big

I believe the only reason to make music is to make money. I don't believe in this "I do it because I love it". yeah we all love the money$$$ it brings in
the same reason people make music is the same reason why people listen to music. because it gives them an outlet for their emotions.

the same reason people make music is the same reason why people listen to music. because it gives them an outlet for their emotions.

Exactly. I want to be in a band just so I can have other musicians to play along with to create something. To play with other people who would inspire me to be better in music. But that wouldn't be my job. I want to be a luthier (a guitar design and craftsman), but that doesn't mean I can't be in a small band to make rad music.

Pass, metal is the most diverse genre there is. You can't just say it has "low rhythm" and it just has "really fast beats." You have no clue how huge the metal scene really is, and you wouldn't understand it unless you actually were a part of it. Part of what makes metal what it is is the fact that we've been known as the underdogs of the industry. But in reality, it's huge. Metal is EVERYWHERE. You also probably don't understand how fulfilling it is to create music and work with others to create it. In my opinion, it's one of the most fulfilling experiences possible. If you love making metal enough, and you are dedicated enough, you WILL be known, and you WILL make money.

Everything comes down to money in the world, and no one can deny it.

Also to add to my point, take Buddy Rich for example. He was internationally named the world's best drummer, and never played metal. He played jazz, which is a much more complex genre than metal as it has intense grooves and difficult rhythms.

Is this conversation really happening? Thought you were just messing with us. If you're actually so in the dark about all of this, I'll try to elaborate so you're not misinformed. No hard feelings, it just seems like you don't really understand metal.

Metal, much like any other genre of music, carries influence from MANY different genres. Jazz is a huge part of metal, and I've studied jazz, rock, funk, latin, lots of different styles of drumming. The fact of the matter is that metal is so much more diverse than what you've been exposed to. The genre has more subgenres than most other genres, which goes to show that it's about playing music with a passion and aggression matched by few other genres.

Dude, you're free to think what you want. But I just don't want to be misunderstood as some dead-end kid destined for stuff because I'm barking up a dead tree. Metal drumming isn't what I want to do with my life, I play because I enjoy it and I have fun with it. It makes me happy. It's that simple, I just love doing it. And I may not be the best, but I carry a passion for music more than many other things in my life—metal is a huge part of that passion, and it's almost therapeutic to sit down at a kit and experience the sheer euphoria of releasing my emotions in a torrent of power, aggression, occasionally speed, and groove. It's how I stay so chill the rest of the time :D

Metal music, the subgenres I have a passion for, give me a feeling that I can't quite place but it's somewhere between an overwhelming sense of raw power, and quiet struggle. It's unmatched. It's raw, it's emotive and it's very dear to me. I have a great respect for jazz and tons of other genres, and I appreciate the influence of those other genres on something I choose to believe in wholeheartedly.

Bottom line: I'm not trying to reach the top of the ladder and make millions playing metal drums. That's just not realistic, I have other interests that are more feasible and practical contributions to society—but I do it for fun. I've got heart for this music, and I just ask that you respect that. Actually, you don't have to respect anything I say but I hope I at least made some sense.

For the record, I do work with other artists as a session drummer for shows and recording sessions. My next gig is acoustic-alternative, backing a female solo act. My band of 4 years played funk rock along the lines of RHCP and Sublime, and I played several shows with an alternative folk rock band. It's all about diversity man, metal is just what I choose to play in my personal time on the kit—pushes my limits as a drummer like no other genre does.
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the same reason people make music is the same reason why people listen to music. because it gives them an outlet for their emotions.
I listen to music to look cool
people always look cooler when they listen to music

I listen to music to look cool
people always look cooler when they listen to music

Hell yeah B)