Author Topic: Zix's Randomizer (Bushido)  (Read 12580 times)

the difference is this is a game about shooting eachother, not a mass genocide case

banning someone who has caused major problems like zapk or anyone with that 'dll' thing would be justifiable, banning someone because of past 'arguments' is just stupid.

so for your police explanation,

a police officer would arrest a homicidal maniac even if he's from somewhere else
he's not going to arrest someone that walks around with saggy pants, just give them a warning (i would hope)
You wouldn't let people who annoy you into your party, especially if they've got a reputation for stirring up stuff.
How different is a blockland server from a party really?

You wouldn't let people who annoy you into your party, especially if they've got a reputation for stirring up stuff.
How different is a blockland server from a party really?
i think you quoted wrong

what i was getting at is this

lets say "player 1" hosts a server, and "player 2" is an admin.

"player 3" has caused some problems in the past, thought nothing actually major, and "player 2" doesn't like him.

while "player 1" doesn't care if he joins and plays the game (as long as he doesn't cause anything), "player 2" bans him without any reason other then the past / personal issues. simply muting "player 3" would have been a better decision then a ban.

now this case would be entirely different if "player 3" was banned by "player 1", or by "player 2" WITH permission.

wow, i sure do wonder who these mysterious nonspecific players one, two and three are

like i have no information to go on even but player two sounds super handsome at least

i think you quoted wrong

what i was getting at is this

lets say "player 1" hosts a server, and "player 2" is an admin.

"player 3" has caused some problems in the past, thought nothing actually major, and "player 2" doesn't like him.

while "player 1" doesn't care if he joins and plays the game (as long as he doesn't cause anything), "player 2" bans him without any reason other then the past / personal issues. simply muting "player 3" would have been a better decision then a ban.

now this case would be entirely different if "player 3" was banned by "player 1", or by "player 2" WITH permission.

yes, there are many "better" ways that people can handle would-be situations
but we're people; we can say forget you and get out if we want
and if later on the entire party agrees, then its fine

your example is a model of a perfect society
that dont exist here

i could go ahead and ban you at will for being a dipstuff and a problem user, but that's utterly handicapped unless you're intentionally provocative or do something /in that moment/, on the server that warranted it. it's totally impractical.
you still have a right to ban the user for any reason of so. It will for sure get you a stuffty rep, but its your server, and you chose what you want.

just clarifying that what i said above is completely sarcastic

yes, there are many "better" ways that people can handle would-be situations
but we're people; we can say forget you and get out if we want
and if later on the entire party agrees, then its fine

your example is a model of a perfect society
that dont exist here

i'm just saying that bushido banned tez for past issues and it's not even his server

that's not moderating, that's just being a jerk. apparently he was going mute-happy earlier too.

Yeah hopefully Zix does something about Bushido
^talking about this here thread^
Hopefully. Bushi came in and was muting a bunch of people for bullstuff reasons. He permamuted me and my friend Green Arrow when we were getting on his case. He is VERY touchy.

that's not moderating, that's just being a jerk. apparently he was going mute-happy earlier too.

actually i just mute anyone who makes it clear they're trying to start a fight

like i've muted a dozen people just today before they came into direct conflict with anyone else and immediately unmuted them once i made it clear that i wasn't going to stand for them antagonizing some guy at length for having a high id or 'aimbotting' or killing them too much or something and most people get the picture pretty quickly

like the mutes last maybe 10 seconds- just long enough for me to say 'dont start a fight over this stupid nothing conflict, it's not worth it and nobody wants to see you make idiots of yourselves'- and then i unmute them. if they continue to attempt to fight i usually just mute them again and unmute them like 10 minutes later, and if they somehow continue to attempt to fight a 10 minute old fight then i just mute them and forget about it cause they aren't gonna contribute anything to any conversations, forget em

bim in particular has a forgetin taunt button

a manually bound custom taunt button

something that could only possibly exist to start fights with other people

like in team fortress or whatever that would be ok because the taunts are not only a deliberate part of the game- which means everyone innately has access to them, effortlessly- but leave you wide open for a hilarious come-uppance should you then get shot while you're doing a little victory dance and the taunts are innately sort of goofy, so everyone still has fun when the heavy eats a sandwich over some dead guys corpse or the spy starts talkin about dinner food or whatever. meanwhile, bim has gone out of his way to prebake a function with the express purpose of exerting dominance over whoever he can kill in what is essentially a skill-less party game, which is already a big red flag in my head that he's obviously not going to be an asset to anyone's day

so the first time i noticed him doin this sort of thng, i warned him; he was deliberately slingin stuff at some guy he'd just killed with one of the aforementioned prebaked taunts (something like "Was that your best?" or some ridiculous cliche along those lines) and i told him off cause one that's a ridiculous cliche and two he's already won the fight, he doesn't have to dance around and rub the guy's face in it

so the second time he's using (what might have been the same taunt, considering they're all cliches and they've all mixed together in my head) the same tool like the next round, completely ignoring me, so i muted him

so he calls in, like, flunkies

like 3 guys show up and are all "why did you mute bim hes such a nice guy" and i present my case that "he's literally automated being a stuffbird" and they're like "no, that doesnt count" and let them run their course and like 2 of them eventually leave and the last one is green arrow, who admittedly i probably should unmute. like i think i muted him for briefly spamming the server and then i never saw him try to talk again so i assumed he just had nothing else to say beyond "bim has done nothing wrong" and we didnt really come in contact past that

anyway so later i unmute bim and say something along the lines of "bim stop bein a stuff, i'm not gonna tolerate you making a random party game any more infuriating to the playerbase then it is innately" and like a split second later he kills some guy and says "Was that your best?" and now he's just permamuted

like what more could i possibly say here? 'you know what bim i'm sorry it was wrong of me to give you upwards of 5 chances to not act like a stuffbird. here, let me unmute you so you can continue to piss off more people with a low-tech chatbot'

honestly, bushyguy went easy on him there jesus christ
i would've just banned him lol. he had a mod specifically designed to make the game more frustrating for other people and was proud enough about it to do it consistently after administrative action was taken to correct the issue. then he called in buddies (sorry if that sounds obnoxious) to defend his case when he was the one making the game unpleasant for other people. absolutely not; ur ded. call me a tyrant or w/e you want. my number-one basic rule is to not ruin the fun for other people for any reason.

I feel that Tezuni's ban wasn't in the right, but I can see banning him for being a 'problem user'. However he's been in the boss battles server(apologies for using this as an example constantly, but it fits very well in most cases) before with no issues other than people attacking him out of the blue, but he himself doesn't cause any issues afaik

apparently he was going mute-happy earlier too.

I'm just going to say here that there's a difference between going mute-happy and actually muting the people that need it in order for the admin to sort out the issue(s). I've muted six players before in an instance before just to get points across to people, someone should only get so many chances. Bim had his chances, and even if it wasn't to make someone angry(although that's the sole purpose of it) then it would fall under being spam, trolling, etc

honestly, bushyguy went easy on him there jesus christ
This too. I would've also banned Bim and his 'friends' or what have you.

the very concept of a "haha I beat you suck it" button is infuriating when it's not part of the game
you're doin it for the express purpose of being terrible to someone

short novel
okay so i'm gonna guess that matthew guy is one of bim's goons, and that right there is what should get a ban, atleast for a week in my opinion.

but the whole 'banning tezuni for past problem causing' idea really shouldn't have happened, you could have just muted him if he was trying to start a fight. i don't see what would be different between bim and tezuni, other then one actually did cause a problem.
in case you live in a cave, the one who caused a problem is bim

noedit: am dumb, matthewBIM, some proof incase it's needed

I was in Furdles GTA and they were finishing up the build. I got a heli and started ramming some guy sitting in a car. Furdle told me to stop being a twat, which I asked him to define, and he responded with "you". I then called him rude, which I recieved a perma for. Mind you I stopped ramming after he told me to, I was banned for calling him rude.
Not going to drama this one just because of how stupid it is, doesn't deserve the time.



i've seen bim around and i've seen him not be a stuff or at least stop being a stuff when asked and figured that- yes, he is an starfish, but he's a harmless starfish who will actually knock it off when prompted and occasionally actively contributes

simultaneously i've seen tezuni richardin around here and there and cannot remember a single time his presence has ever been a positive impact on anything or anyone and i am under absolutely positively no obligation to let anyone i know who is definitely a stuffbird onto servers, especially on the off chance that Maybe They've Changed. that kind of philosophy is naive and only leads to stress on the administration's part, and if at any point an admin can cut down on the amount of people who are liabilities to a server's peaceful runtime then by all means they should as that is their entire job

i've seen bim around and i've seen him not be a stuff or at least stop being a stuff when asked and figured that- yes, he is an starfish, but he's a harmless starfish who will actually knock it off when prompted and occasionally actively contributes

simultaneously i've seen tezuni richardin around here and there and cannot remember a single time his presence has ever been a positive impact on anything or anyone and i am under absolutely positively no obligation to let anyone i know who is definitely a stuffbird onto servers, especially on the off chance that Maybe They've Changed. that kind of philosophy is naive and only leads to stress on the administration's part, and if at any point an admin can cut down on the amount of people who are liabilities to a server's peaceful runtime then by all means they should as that is their entire job
lol, did you just call me a stuffbird?