Armed black teen shot and killed by police

[Frankie²]

i dont think you understand how hard it is to hit someone in the leg/arm in the first place, especially when under stress

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[Aces]

Also the cop had a body cam and a camera on his car but forgot to turn it on?

Whole situation could've been seen through his body cam, and not through some really shoddy camera from far away.

[ABlockOfCheese]

i dont think you understand how hard it is to hit someone in the leg/arm in the first place, especially when under stress

who is this post directed at?

[xxxxkill]

hey guess what shooting somebody = wounding them
it doesnt matter where you shoot them, it's still wounding them, and no matter where the shot is it's going to be lethal.

Well, actually no. Properly treated in time, there's a surprisingly high survival rate for bullet wounds. Admittedly, it's still low, (What was it roughly 33% or so?) but not every .22 LR is going to be an ass-shredding death-pellet, and not every 9mm wound is going to be nonlethal. Most of the time, getting shot is guaranteed to be at least crippling.
And there is the rather odd implied dismissal by Snaked_Snake of how police officers (And, really, most people given guns for the intent of using those guns to disable a person) are trained to aim for the center of mass. As in the torso. Where those squishy internal organs are located. Really if you're trained in shooting and you aren't some kind of headshot whoring marksman on a range, you're going to be shooting people in the torso rather than the arms, legs, and face. Those kinds of shots are simply very difficult to make in a situation where you have less than a second to respond before a bullet lands into your, likely equally or slightly less squishy torso.

[Frankie²]

who is this post directed at?

anyone who claims he shouldve just shot him in the leg/arm

[e-maxx]

Umm

They could've made a shot that wasn't lethal?

Maybe in the arm?

what?
if your a cop near a place that absolutely loathes the entire PD and someone is pointing a damn gun in your face your first reaction is going to be to kill the person

[ABlockOfCheese]

anyone who claims he shouldve just shot him in the leg/arm

ah ok.

[Biostorm]

Off topic but weren't there protesters at the Cliven Bundy ranch armed with guns, and some of them aiming their guns at federal officers? People sure do react differently when its white protesters defending a guy who is committing the crime of tax evasion isn't it?

This is pure hypocrisy in my eyes. When the Black Panthers in the 70s and 80s wanted to exercise their Second Amendment rights to carry arms, the NRA and conservatives in general were all like "NO.

But when some white armed to the teeth militiamen are protesting for some random millionaire who refuses to pay taxes and no one is batting an eye, despite some of them aiming their rifles at the police. Then there are the protesters at Ferguson getting tear gas thrown at them, and journalists being detained, despite the majority of them not being armed at all.

[Kearn]

remember when those evil white protestors all suddenly pulled their guns out at officers from concealment when officers tried to talk to them

[Illuminati]

Here's the surveillance footage for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s01iO4jvtM

and zoomed in version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKx-7ZxZ1es

[Ipquarx]

You think that by that description anyone would have the ability to think clearly, and do nothing besides fall to the ground?

You don't need to be clearly thinking to shoot a gun. all you gotta do is contract the muscle in your fingers. Your muscles do not instantly go limp, by that description you have around 5 or 10 seconds to do something before you pass out.

[Aces]

You don't need to be clearly thinking to shoot a gun. all you gotta do is contract the muscle in your fingers.

Yes please do that as you are leaking blood from your chest in a state of confusion and pain unbeknownst to you.

I'm sure I'm going to be able to focus on getting my revenge as I fall to the ground looking at the stream of blood flowing out me.

by that description you have around 5 or 10 seconds to do something before you pass out.

Yeah you can do something. Feel a nauseated burning and stinging pain before you assess the situation and fall to the floor.

You must be superhuman, lol.

[Ipquarx]

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Your muscles do not instantly go limp

Let's take a look at another website, http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/activeshooter.html


(About halfway scrolled down the page, under the header "So you got shot"

If, on the other hand, you believe you can keep going after you've been shot (or don't know that you've been shot) then you can keep on going.

seems pretty cut n' dry to me :/

[Aces]

No one said anything about muscles going limp so I don't know what that is supposed to support.

And obviously you are going to look down at whatever punched you.

The only situation where the criminal will keep on functioning is when they're running, as the article suggests.
If you're in a face to face altercation and you feel something going amiss in your body, you are going to look.

[Ipquarx]

No one said anything about muscles going limp so I don't know what that is supposed to support.

You are! You're saying that it's impossible to pull the trigger of a gun after you've been shot unless you're running, which is ridiculous because it's totally untrue. There is no law saying you have to look down after you "feel something going amiss in your body," you can totally still shoot. Especially if the criminal really wants you dead, and doesn't care if they die in the process. Or who knows, maybe they've been shot before and they know how to deal with it for even a moment so they can pull the trigger.

The point is, if you don't shoot to kill there's still a risk you can get shot back.