Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®

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Is it.

yes. killed by colonel mustard.
20 (22.7%)
no. killed by miss scarlett
3 (3.4%)
killed by mrs. white
5 (5.7%)
killed by reverend green
3 (3.4%)
Professor Plum.
7 (8%)
killed by mrs pearooster
11 (12.5%)
with a lead pipe
3 (3.4%)
with a revolver
6 (6.8%)
with a wrench
4 (4.5%)
with a rope
13 (14.8%)
with a dagger
3 (3.4%)
with a candlestick
10 (11.4%)

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high level math is helpful; you could say otherwise a generation ago, but good luck living your life off of low- education jobs with workforce automation becoming more prevelant
and even if it's not directly helpful, learning math is stimulating and it makes a person a lot more intelligent

also remembur kids
extracurricular skills are more important than good grades
Automation: I don't see it being too viable because that would mean there would only be a few jobs left. If such a thing were to able to happen, the only jobs left would be ceo, business manager/store owner, possibly technician and programmer, police officer, police chief, politician, military officer, and engineer.

Being a store owner/manager doesn't require too much education, however there are some problems with that. Most store chains rely on the middle class as the main source of income as well as the lower class. However if you eliminate most of the middle class job, people aren't making money which they aren't buying things. If people don't have money to spend, they aren't coming to your TV store anytime soon. I bet those corporate guys rarely shop at target or walmart, I have a feeling most are willing to import goods and have them delivered to them. Our society is built around money, the buying and selling of goods.

Not everyone the time, money, or mental capacity to go out to do something like cybernetic robotics engineering, or become corporate executive of some large company.

Higher education: We are at the point where the standard of living has gone up. Way back when all you needed to live a decent life was to work, then it became all you needed was a high school education, and up until recently you needed a two year degree. By decent living I mean you have enough for a house, not the best or worst house. You can pay for all your means, they aren't the best meals or the worst. You are able to pay for all your living expenses with some money left over for saving or burning. Now we are the point where you need a four year degree to live decently.

It's like the standards go up, but we are tied down. It is like Darwin's theory of evolution where only the strong survive.

Socialization is also an important skill and it is not something you are born with. You might be able to talk to family, but you that ability and confidence to talk to strangers. The only way to do that is to start at an early age and talk to kids and teachers you don't even know. There is no avoiding face to face communication because you are going to have to talk to people in the work place for just about any job.

i feel like mandatory public school all the way up to senior year is getting less and less practical every moment. with the internet being so huge and full of easily accessible information, many of my classes felt dated and useless as i already knew most of the material. what really bugs me is that in some classes we use textbooks from like the 90's and early 2000's that contain information that isn't even accurate anymore or has changed.

the only things i've learned that are useful were in my junior and senior years, which included business math, business management, us history, government, and economics. i don't remember stuff from any other class.

i did get social skills from high school though. before i was a freshman i was a awkward nerd who couldn't talk to anyone and played on the computer all day. i got made fun of a lot and cleaned up my act, started dressing better, and started partying. id probably still be a virgin if it weren't for high school.

yes, it should be mandatory. its a stuffty but overall worth it experience

this is 100% true

it's even worse with religious families

I'm not autistic. Homeschool families who don't socialize their kids are those who stand out like Westboro does to Christianity, feminational socialists to feminists, and anti-theists to atheists among other things.

I have nothing to hide, I am Caribou. I came back because I missed this community. I also must say that you're pretty good how you caught on so fast, I am surprised. I didn't say anything that was revealing either.

Oh hey, welcome back bro.

No, I was fully homeschooled until high school and it has definitely benefited me

No, the public school system is too flawed to mandate its use.
If they actually had universally decent teachers and catered to advanced students sufficiently, I would consider otherwise. But in my own experience public school slowed me down so much, and I will not put my own children through that when the day comes. (This isn't to say I would hide them away from society like people seem to assume I mean when I say this, I just notice that most people are stupid and being around stupid people while developing your views of the world can be very damaging.)

i like the learning aspect of school, it's just teachers and state testing that makes it a load of forget

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if high school wasn't mandatory, then my classes would be so much more enjoyable. the majority of kids at my school don't even want to be there in the first place and refuse to cooperate, which holds everyone else back.

people say that school keeps kids off the street so they don't start fights n stuff, but it happens inside and outside of school regardless.

No, the public school system is too flawed to mandate its use.
If they actually had universally decent teachers and catered to advanced students sufficiently, I would consider otherwise. But in my own experience public school slowed me down so much, and I will not put my own children through that when the day comes. (This isn't to say I would hide them away from society like people seem to assume I mean when I say this, I just notice that most people are stupid and being around stupid people while developing your views of the world can be very damaging.)
The public school is flawed. The current was designed to prepare people for the world where working an industrial job was viable. However that world doesn't exist anymore. All they do in school now is teach kids how to test and bubble in a b c d. So instead of being taught, the schools are just trying to pass as many kids as possible regardless if they learned anything or not. I went though elementary school, junior high, and high school writing papers that were covered and marked up in red, yet there was a giant A or B on top.

I didn't learn how to write a proper essay until I got college. Now when I write something and turn it in it actually feels like I accomplished something that I can be proud off. Math on the other hand has been a struggle for me because it seems like the goal is cram as much into one semester as much as possible. We are expected to cram, even in college we expected to cram everything possible into a 3 month period. I think math is taught best a slower pace with at least one or two homework assignments to reinforce what I learn. Most math courses lack the reinforcement aspect and its basically one chapter, one assignment each day followed by one test that has information taught from 4 weeks ago all cramped into one test. The only way you can study for that is if you get in enough practice. Either you know how to solve the problem or you don't.

The other problem is that there are teachers who don't want to teach and instead use homework to teach instead of reinforce what was learned. I've teachers and professors who told us to reach a chapter from the book, answer questions, and come back to take a quiz on the material while. This pisses me off in college because I am paying for this class and I have to sit here and not be taught, instead I am paying for a class to learn something that I could have  learned to on my own free time.

Even the college system needs some sort of reform in my opinion. You are supposed to go to college learn to specialize in something right? Instead I have to waste my time paying for classes like "The history of art", "intro to world music", stuff I will for sure never use in my life, yet I am expected to take these classes so that I can transfer and become a more well rounded person when the well rounding part should have been done in K-12. This combined with the professors who make you learn through homework, the whole thing is a scam just so you can get a piece of paper that allows you work in a certain field.

Even then, once you have that piece of paper and you go to that job interview they say something like "Oh cool you have a degree, but do you have job experience in this field? No, okay sorry. We aren't interested in you." and then you probably ask "Well how do I get job experience in this field "Well you need a degree to get this job". Because of that I learned that if you know a guy and have connections, those obstacles disappear and you got the job because you knew a guy who could put you there, not because you worked hard to get there. Because you were able to bullstuff your way in.

So yes education K-12 should be mandatory. The option to drop out should only be available to high school and students who are legal adults. However we need to reform the upper and lower educational system first.

p much every homeschooled kid I've met is socially autistic

stay in (public) school, kids
yeah no

I've been homeschooled essentially all my life, and both my numerous homeschooled friends and I all have active social lives both with other homeschooled people and public and private schooled people.

Please don't believe the stereotype that homeschoolers have no life, because for a lot of them, it's not true.

related question: should homework exist

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wow okay then


I think we can all agree that what should be taught in homeschool should be standardized and complies with what is taught in public school. Other than that it shouldn't matter whether someone rather be taught at home than in a public setting.

The only problem with homeschooling is that it allows for bullstuff teaching to be frank...
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related question: should homework exist
Yes, there's not enough time in the year to cover all the subjects in the curriculum and also have some time to work on questions.

Also it gives petty kids a taster that the real world isn't easy. If they can't deal with homework then they don't know what's coming to them.